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    Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by RaffoSS on Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:28 pm

    Hi there!
    I see a lot of people saying DSS is soo good and that it can guard break easily.

    So my questions are:

    1) What is guard breaking? Depleting stamina for each shielded hit?
    2) is there a special combo (R1-R2 combo..ect) i'm not aware of?
    3) is there anything else i'm missing?
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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Tolvo on Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:41 pm

    Where is Doughguy, he uses that thing a lot.
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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:46 pm

    No, its what happens when someone tries to block an attack without enough stamina to do so

    No, but the 1hr2 is a projectile attack.

    No clue.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Jansports on Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:52 pm

    I'm not sure what it is, but the DSS' running attack costs a hefty amount of stamina to block.

    doughguy should pop ('n fresh) his head in here to explain further the virtues of the DSS afaik it's his favourite weapon.
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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:03 pm

    Use a bow/crossbow.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by RaffoSS on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:19 pm

    Tolvo wrote:Where is Doughguy, he uses that thing a lot.

    Uhm i ll try contacting this Dough dude then..thanks for the tip
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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:22 pm

    Try to do a build around it and use it. It's very easy to use, just poke and roll, or R1 spammage.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:08 pm

    Wow I guess people know I like it. I personally use it 2 handed on my Nk build. The strength comes in its range. Combined with lag you can get hits on your opponent at more than its actual reach. Its good for keeping peop-le at a distance so smaller weapons cant reach you. The roll r1 is fast and is useful as I roll a lot. A good DSS user doesnt allow anyone to get close to them by using normals r1s at range to force people to back off. As long as you keep your foe at a distance you are invincible.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:32 pm

    have you tried the mlbh dough? how did they compare if you have.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:15 pm

    I have tried the MLBH a bit. I used it on a dual wielding toon. Its a pretty good weapon. Full magic damage is nice but it still seems pretty low. Its shorter for sure. I havent done enough testing on the moveset (nor can I remember much of it since I used it in the offhand mostly). Its a great pve weapon and decent for pvp.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:28 pm

    Mmhm. its pretty decent two handed, the range is pretty good too.
    it has obvious problems vs other mlgs users or logans hat/maiden skirt.
    its got a roll r1 upswing tho.. what's the dsses?


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:30 pm

    The DSS has an upswing too so that seems to be the same.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:34 pm

    you rock any stacks of wotg with it? leo ring? gcc on the back or a tali and flame?


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:38 pm

    that spears cool. its like the faith version of mlgs build.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:44 pm

    damb that things 10 pounds..


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:50 pm

    totally worth it. Though, can you explain why abusing lag to phantom strike people to death is ok, but doing the same to bs is wrong? Especially considering that simply back pedalling will prevent nearly every bs, but no amount of dodging can protect anyone from phantom hits.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:00 am

    because the good manner god wills it happy


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:24 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:totally worth it. Though, can you explain why abusing lag to phantom strike people to death is ok, but doing the same to bs is wrong? Especially considering that simply back pedalling will prevent nearly every bs, but no amount of dodging can protect anyone from phantom hits.
    When, despite being in aus, I experience some phantom hits, I will explain why. Until then I jhavent suffered enough to comment. Maybe I just dont find enough spear users? I dont know. But the fact is when I choose to use a spear I dont do it to get phantoms hits. I do it to use a spear. People who abuse lag for BSing are actively abusing it, not just chossing a weapon and using said weapon.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:24 am

    I still prefer the moonlight horn, at least for low level PvP. The DSS is too damn heavy, and its stats requirements are way too high. The horn has low AR but it is pure magical, so you'll be dealing around 200 damage per poke, which is very good for a spear. I only use spears as back up because I get bored fast.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:26 am

    And the SK spear for pure Dex builds is an amazing back up.


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    Re: Explain me the DSS please.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:30 am

    I don't choose to abuse lag to bs, I bs to bs punish. They both abuse lag, and people do it both intentionally and unintentionally.


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