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    With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by isthefridge on Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:26 am

    Giants armor hasnt really bothered me in the past but recently i have been remaking new builds trying new stats and weapons. The variety isnt vast but its enough to make a unique looking toon. I think everyone will agree with me that the Giants armor is too easily accessible and upgradable. I mean I went an entire playthrough with +7 elite Knight and went NG+ before getting the chest to +10. All this while Twinkling titanite is for sale along with the armor in probly the best soul farming area in the game. I refuse to use the armor simply for the fact it takes little to no work to achieve or max out. If anything should be removed its the upgradablity to the cheapest armor in the game. Giants armor for shame.


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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by Rynn on Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:41 am

    Frankly i'm unhappy with the route From took with Twinkling titanite overall.
    Twinking titanite was rare. It was rare as ***. So much that Twinkling titanite was literally the perfect example of an item you HAD to use like you meant it. You had to know what you wanted to use it on, and that was just that.

    the problem was that great that makes use of this titanite was... very numurous, with only 23 attainable per playthrough, and a viable chance the player needed 40 for a full set of armor, from felt guilt tripped to make it more attainable, and so they have it now sold at the giant.

    ...You know, rather then just buffing anything that needed Twinking titanite, or just telling us to *** off... they instead ruined one of the rarest and most sought after materials. a mat that is considered worth so much, that the players of the game cheered every time they received 2, instead of 1, from a crystal lizard.

    a mat that is the single reason Crystal Lizards even exist; and is now so readily available i generally ignore all but 2 of them. (They are directly on your path.)
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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by Bloodios on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:04 am

    How rare was it for a Man-eater Shell to drop a Twinkling titanite before the patch?


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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by Forum Pirate on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:05 am

    I'm going to disagree very strongly with op, for so many reasons I'm not even going to list them. I'll agree that I prefered it be a b**ch to upgrade, to take real work to max like everything else, but thats as far as I'll go.


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    Post by Rynn on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:07 am

    Bloodios wrote:How rare was it for a Man-eater Shell to drop a Twinkling titanite before the patch?
    It was less the rarity of the drop, and more of the difficulty and irratation to -reach- them. There is 6 of them at Seaths, and 3 in the great hollow. Seaths is a better farming area, and at 410 item discovery, you got 1 twinking every 12 kills on average.
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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by Uparkaam on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:11 am

    Rynn wrote:Frankly i'm unhappy with the route From took with Twinkling titanite overall.
    Twinking titanite was rare. It was rare as ***. So much that Twinkling titanite was literally the perfect example of an item you HAD to use like you meant it. You had to know what you wanted to use it on, and that was just that.

    the problem was that great that makes use of this titanite was... very numurous, with only 23 attainable per playthrough, and a viable chance the player needed 40 for a full set of armor, from felt guilt tripped to make it more attainable, and so they have it now sold at the giant.

    ...You know, rather then just buffing anything that needed Twinking titanite, or just telling us to *** off... they instead ruined one of the rarest and most sought after materials. a mat that is considered worth so much, that the players of the game cheered every time they received 2, instead of 1, from a crystal lizard.

    a mat that is the single reason Crystal Lizards even exist; and is now so readily available i generally ignore all but 2 of them. (They are directly on your path.)

    But everyone could just get unlimited amounts of it with the Snuggly glitch.


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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by Rynn on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:13 am

    Uparkaam wrote:
    Rynn wrote:Frankly i'm unhappy with the route From took with Twinkling titanite overall.
    Twinking titanite was rare. It was rare as ***. So much that Twinkling titanite was literally the perfect example of an item you HAD to use like you meant it. You had to know what you wanted to use it on, and that was just that.

    the problem was that great that makes use of this titanite was... very numurous, with only 23 attainable per playthrough, and a viable chance the player needed 40 for a full set of armor, from felt guilt tripped to make it more attainable, and so they have it now sold at the giant.

    ...You know, rather then just buffing anything that needed Twinking titanite, or just telling us to *** off... they instead ruined one of the rarest and most sought after materials. a mat that is considered worth so much, that the players of the game cheered every time they received 2, instead of 1, from a crystal lizard.

    a mat that is the single reason Crystal Lizards even exist; and is now so readily available i generally ignore all but 2 of them. (They are directly on your path.)

    But everyone could just get unlimited amounts of it with the Snuggly glitch.
    Snuggly is patched; and glitches are not what you balance an item and it's rarity around.
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    Post by Uparkaam on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:21 am

    I meant that twinkling titanite wasn't really that rare before the patch because a lot of people just glitched it. It was really easy to obtain back then and now it's even easier.


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    Post by isthefridge on Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:09 am

    What brought this post on was the obscene use of the armor in the forest. Thats all.


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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:22 am

    I agree with Rynn with respect to the availability of Twinkling titanite in the game now. I don't know about the Snuggly glitch as I don't glitch (I'm a Boy Scout, what can I say?) but I think that making that very valuable upgrade stone purchasable at a blacksmith was a mistake.

    I'm not saying I don't take advantage of the Giant Blacksmith's shop - I do. It's just to convenient not too; but it's really created a game where it'a best to just use special armors (Twinkling upgrades) as they are infinitely easier to fully upgrade than your normal sets.

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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by Rynn on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:12 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    the problem was that great that makes use of this titanite was...
    ...and THAT is why you don't type messages at 4 AM people!
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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by isthefridge on Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:48 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:I'm going to disagree very strongly with op, for so many reasons I'm not even going to list them. I'll agree that I prefered it be a b**ch to upgrade, to take real work to max like everything else, but thats as far as I'll go.


    I really would like to see this list. not trying to antagonize or flame just curious...


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    Re: With ease and without shame. (rant)

    Post by Bioraptor on Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:23 pm

    In all the time I have had DkS I have not used the Gaints armour once.
    I also am old skool about how back in the day you had one choice to up grade what ever armour due to the rarity of the Twinkle.
    Now you can up grade like it's going out of fashion,I belive From made a bad call giving us that much choice and with such ease.
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