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    draganoid build help please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:12 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/9amjadu

    that's all i got. throw whatever ideas you can my way, i've never used a draganoid body before, but they look cool and i like the idea of having the built in fire surge and force.
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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:14 pm

    i know they do a lot of damage with their fists... i was considering maybe using claws and my bare fists instead of the cblade and bow..


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Gaxe on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:16 pm

    It looks fine to me lol. Although I personally don't like the chaos blade.
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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by ICEFANG on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:18 pm

    What else do you intend to do with the build that is unique? Other than being dragon, it seems normal, I do have one helpful bit though.

    I would suggest you remove the DWGR, and perhaps use the Cloranthy Ring. Roar and breath take up a lot or Stamina to be effective, and you'll be rolling around a lot. Or perhaps the Wolf Ring, since you already have one Stamina regen on. If it was me, I would remove the shield and get more solid one, but that's more personal preference. You may notice that 95% doesn't cut is as well when its harder to parry (should you miss, you'll probably die), and you have no armor to absorb the 5%, it can nickle and dime you, just like your Chaos Blade may. It also may benefit from Power Within if you want to keep that more aggressive suicidal nature to it. But losing your pyros or Composite Bow may not be worth having another unupgraded pyro hand.

    The dragon claw's moveset is so bad, you can't expect to hit anyone with them without a backstab. Really, you shouldn't use them unless you have around 8 STR and 8 DEX. Its AR is 400 and it does extra critical damage.


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:20 pm

    yeah this is the stuff im talking about.

    im just looking at it like it's my favorite build but im a dragon instead.. cloranthy ring and wolf ring for poise would you say?

    what kind of shield would you suggest? i kind of like the grass crest but i dont think ill need all of that regen.

    but again IDK so maybe i do hahaha

    http://tinyurl.com/9vwsqvk

    actually idk about the cloranthy ring man. sure it adds regen, but i lose a lot of stam and life. maybe fap is better.


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by ICEFANG on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:24 pm

    Well, the 40 from Wolf Ring isn't too great, its much better than none for sure, but I never feel its worth the slot since quite a few weapons will still stun you. I prefer the Cloranthy Ring because I use my Stamina a lot faster with rolling and dragon abilities, and the Ring of Favor and Protection for the same reason too, plus usually I can either toggle escape or I just free myself (the games like, ok 4 hits is enough, no more stagger), with all that HP, plus you can survive backstabs better. Wolf Ring and Cloranthy Ring is good too though.

    No DWGR, you are so light, even though the flip is overall better than the roll, I don't think its worth the ring slot. Have you played dragon before? Would you be interested in my older post on the dragon abilities in detail?

    Sorry, shields. I really like the Black Knight Shield, because of flavor and it looks damn cool, but the Eagle Shield is vastly better for dragons who don't want to parry and have that 16 STR as you do. Any solid shield should be fine (like Crest Shield maybe, Sliver Knight's), but as a dragon you get to slightly ignore its EL.


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:25 pm

    no ive never played dragon, i think ill go fap/cloranthy then with a gcrest.

    i found one of jumi's builds on the ds forums.
    Dragonoid: (SL 125 Warrior)
    60/12/34/27/40/11/14/9
    RH: Halberd +15, Demon´s Spear +5
    LH:Composite Long Bow +15, Oolacile Ivory Catalyst (Swap to Pyro Flame +5)
    Spells: Hidden Weapon, Great Combustion
    RIngs:Flip/wolf,Fap

    he's using hidden weapon lmao. what do you think?
    (not that hidden weapon is bad, i just think its funny.)


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Spurgun on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:27 am

    Use the wolf ring until you see a weapon that would stun you even if you have it on (UGS, UGH etc) then you can switch it to something else (RTS and clorsnthy are my favorites).
    If it´s you´re first time using a dragon them you might get a suprise. Attacks from smaller weapons do a lot more damage.
    I would put 6 points from vit into end, i always need a lot of stamina in order dodge everything.
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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:31 am

    end is at 40?


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Spurgun on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:33 am

    I thought it was at 34 :oops:
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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:34 am

    OH you mean jumi's. yeah it is, im not going to use that build tho.

    i'm going to go great scythe since i love the thing and rock a spear.

    not sure what shield i'm going to use.. and if i'm going to use pyros or a bow in the offhand.

    if they have a big weapon i'll swap to dwgr. going to have a fap ring on by default.

    no. cblade is going on there, screw the spear.
    k.. no an uchi is going on there.

    http://tinyurl.com/d57eo4e

    considering black knight shield..

    i bet hidden weapon a gscythe would be a total gongshow.. hmm..


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by ICEFANG on Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:34 am

    I really like Katana weapons and more so Halberd weapons for dragons. The fast attack and move out works well for Katanas and the extra range is great for Halberds.


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    Re: draganoid build help please.

    Post by Rifter7 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:50 pm

    maybe i'm going to try jumi's build.. idk, i've never been led astray with most of his builds..
    a couple of them where pretty bad, but they can't all be zingers i guess. this one looks good when i think about it and after hearing the halberd praise..

    especially with the hidden weapon.. might throw some people off for when they roll or try to parry... and that demon spear two handed can punish roll stabbers pretty well i bet if i chill just outside their range. it'll give this squishy little fart a late game plan too incase they have a red tearstone ring and just poise/shield swap damage with my katana..

    the great combustion is just sugar on top.. it should still be okay with 40 dex i hope.


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