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Poise system is bull crap
sean1230- Casual
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- Post n°1
Poise system is bull crap
I have a mixed matched armor on and my poise is 103 and in pvp I'm still getting stunlocked....the makers of the game messed up when it comes to the stunlock....It would be such a better game without it....anyway is there a way to roll out of the second hit or are u screwed no matter what you do?
DoughGuy- Duke's Archivist
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- Post n°2
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Its takes 53 poise to escapethe 1st hit from a greatsword class weapon, 76 from an ultra greatsword class weapon. 103 poise will save you from 1 hit but the second one is going to stunlock you. You need to get out before the second hit. You can attempt to toggle escape (not entirely sure how you do that) but the best thing is to avoid that second hit unless you are sure you can stunlock/kill them frst.
WyrmHero- Lordvessel
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- Post n°3
Re: Poise system is bull crap
LOL, if your poise were 106 you would be able to resist 2 hits of claymore.
sean1230- Casual
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- Post n°4
Re: Poise system is bull crap
It was 103 and I had my stats up on the screen when I wrote the post and not only did I get stunlocked but I got stunlocked the first swing.....and also does anyone know how to avoid a double backstabbing?
FruitPunchNinja- Revived
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- Post n°5
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Heres a short answer to both your questions.1. Your poise is similar to your status bars(like poison) if someone hits you a few times it drains your poise, so if they hit you soon enough after that they can stunlock you. To cancel a stunlock you switch your weapon/shield right as you are being hit, it takes practice to get the timing. 2. To avoid chain bs, you can either just try to roll twards or away from them try to pick the least obvious direction. Or you can just not press ANYTHING and they cant chain bs you, but it only last about half a second and they can still obviously land a normal hit.
Edit: a you tuber made a lot of helpful videos for people new to pvp, heres one of his vids that contains more detailed info on what you asked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVdvduhI6E i suggest watching all of his videos, he details pretty much the need to know basics of pvp.
Edit: a you tuber made a lot of helpful videos for people new to pvp, heres one of his vids that contains more detailed info on what you asked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVdvduhI6E i suggest watching all of his videos, he details pretty much the need to know basics of pvp.
RANT- Tyler Durden
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- Post n°6
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Look up YouTube videos about how to toggle out and try to learn how to dodge.
Rynn- Chosen Undead
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- Post n°7
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Are you on X-box? Some players use glitched weapons with abnormally high stunlock (got stunned with 152 poise by a Quealagg Furysword on the first hit before.)sean1230 wrote:It was 103 and I had my stats up on the screen when I wrote the post and not only did I get stunlocked but I got stunlocked the first swing.....and also does anyone know how to avoid a double backstabbing?
sean1230- Casual
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- Post n°8
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Yeah xbox....
FruitPunchNinja- Revived
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- Post n°9
Re: Poise system is bull crap
damn, thats really lame. Is every game on 360 able to be exploited like that?
Forum Pirate- Chosen Undead
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- Post n°10
Re: Poise system is bull crap
A great deal. Many of the bigger multiplayer games have "police" that play and/or watch and ban offenders they catch
Rynn- Chosen Undead
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Re: Poise system is bull crap
This.Forum Pirate wrote:A great deal. Many of the bigger multiplayer games have "police" that play and/or watch and ban offenders they catch
We pay, and we still have a less secure game really.
Buggy Virus- Insomniac
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- Post n°12
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Just think of hackers as final bosses.
RandelOolacile- Obsessed
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- Post n°13
Re: Poise system is bull crap
I never understood the motivating factor behind hacking and game-breaking glitches. You're not really winning any more than you're just wasting time. This can't possibly feel rewarding!
Owl- Casual
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- Post n°14
Re: Poise system is bull crap
I love the poise system. It's just one more aspect of the game that adds flavor and excitement to how you're going to approach PvP. And I say that as a predominantly mage player that often has relatively little poise.
You may have issues with how the poise system works, but I would hesitate to make a sweeping generalization like "it's bull crap" because the alternative is a PvP metagame that allows naked players walking around and attacking with daggers while being hit with a greatsword.
You may have issues with how the poise system works, but I would hesitate to make a sweeping generalization like "it's bull crap" because the alternative is a PvP metagame that allows naked players walking around and attacking with daggers while being hit with a greatsword.
sean1230- Casual
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- Post n°15
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Yah but if you make a system likethe poise one you need to make sureit cant be exploited
TheBigLebowski- Obsessed
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- Post n°16
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Owl wrote:I love the poise system. It's just one more aspect of the game that adds flavor and excitement to how you're going to approach PvP. And I say that as a predominantly mage player that often has relatively little poise.
You may have issues with how the poise system works, but I would hesitate to make a sweeping generalization like "it's bull crap" because the alternative is a PvP metagame that allows naked players walking around and attacking with daggers while being hit with a greatsword.
Yes and do no forget the full armored high poise dudes flipping around with the grain ring
RandelOolacile- Obsessed
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- Post n°17
Re: Poise system is bull crap
In this case I don't think it was a failing of the poise mechanic. Your opponent was hacking which could nullify any effort for fair competition. =/
CaptanSpudsy- Addicted
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- Post n°18
Re: Poise system is bull crap
MudoRH wrote:I never understood the motivating factor behind hacking and game-breaking glitches. You're not really winning any more than you're just wasting time. This can't possibly feel rewarding!
It's rewarding for the people who kill them.
sparkly-twinkly-lizard- Compulsory Poster
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- Post n°19
Re: Poise system is bull crap
even on ps3 we get people who glitch their zweihanders to move as fast as a long sword... but in demons souls there was no poise... which resulted in things like the katana push lock exploit that could almost never be escaped.... i still think that huge weapons should knock you on your @$$ instead of just stunning you, its more fitting in a physics sense and it prevents a lot of the stunlock issue...
Forum Pirate- Chosen Undead
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- Post n°20
Re: Poise system is bull crap
Toggle out. Works in dks as well, it was never difficult to break a stun lock.
While I'm at it, every system has exploits if hacking is involved.
While I'm at it, every system has exploits if hacking is involved.
Chrysalis tCQ- Posts : 12
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- Post n°21
Re: Poise system is bull crap
FruitPunchNinja wrote:Heres a short answer to both your questions.1. Your poise is similar to your status bars(like poison) if someone hits you a few times it drains your poise, so if they hit you soon enough after that they can stunlock you. To cancel a stunlock you switch your weapon/shield right as you are being hit, it takes practice to get the timing. 2. To avoid chain bs, you can either just try to roll twards or away from them try to pick the least obvious direction. Or you can just not press ANYTHING and they cant chain bs you, but it only last about half a second and they can still obviously land a normal hit.
Edit: a you tuber made a lot of helpful videos for people new to pvp, heres one of his vids that contains more detailed info on what you asked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVdvduhI6E i suggest watching all of his videos, he details pretty much the need to know basics of pvp.
oh, nice. I was looking for something like this a day or two ago. Unfortunately the only vids I found were "spam TWOP and WOG" videos
StockpileThomas- Addicted
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- Post n°22
Re: Poise system is bull crap
sean1230 wrote:Yeah xbox....
Case closed.
GkMrBane- Caffeinated
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- Post n°23
Re: Poise system is bull crap
I run into hackers all the time what I did was make it my mission to annoy the $hit out of them for as long as possilble aka fog ring + dragon slayer bow + dark armor = trolling the enemy.
Tolvo- Town Crier
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- Post n°24
Re: Poise system is bull crap
I'm actually sort of alright with the fact that such high poise is needed to tank a hit from such weapons, in fact for certain ones I think there should be no armor combo that could take the hit such as the case with UGS. But, I'm just thinking way to realistically, at the same time I think that if a real person was to get hit with a Greatsword anyway, there is something wrong with them. I do wish a lot of the weapons swung slower, and a lot of other ones were faster. It always seemed interesting to have faster lighter weapons designed towards PvP, and bigger slower weapons towards PvE. But Strength builds would probably be pretty annoyed about that. In either case, toggle escape is your friend. Toggle your right or left hand item right when you are hit, or as fast after as possible.
And no Krillin, you are from Dragonball not Case Closed.
And no Krillin, you are from Dragonball not Case Closed.
Rin- Insomniac
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- Post n°25
Re: Poise system is bull crap
an idea can the dragon form bow glitch be used to kill hackers they just mod their hp to be high right? :|
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