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    Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Heroez Blade on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:03 pm

    I've been trying to do some pvp in the forest for the past few days, but it keeps getting worse everytime. Normally i run into people that spam WoG or other spells so i decided to use great magic barrier. As soon as i used that i started running into people that spam 20+ great combustion :x . If thats not bad enough there are still the people that constantly lag stab or parry the crap out of me.



    Is there any way i can step up my game without being a noob? Is there another good pvp area with less problems?


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:05 pm

    Burg if you don't wanna deal with the madness of the forest.

    Otherwise, get creative with your approach to forest PVP.


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by skarekrow13 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:06 pm

    Every area has less problems pretty much. Check out the Glory For Alvina thread for Forest tips

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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Rin on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:07 pm

    join a player made cov, in the cov section its a good way to learn some neat trick's and make new friends!


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    Post by ROOSTER330 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:08 pm

    Join the fight club on here. And my new unorthodox samurai pvp tournament happy


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Heroez Blade on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:10 pm

    cloudyeki wrote:Burg if you don't wanna deal with the madness of the forest.

    Otherwise, get creative with your approach to forest PVP.



    What are some ways of being creative? I tried heavy armor, light armor, spells/miracles/pyro, big/small weapons, and still i run into problems. I know every game has problems i just wish there was a better way to deal with them.


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by skarekrow13 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:15 pm

    Trees. Let ten trees commit a hate crime on a host

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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Heroez Blade on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:21 pm

    Thats sounds like a good idea skarekrow, but i usually wait for people to invade me.... And as for joining a club or cov, i usually dont do that because most of them require you to be on all the time and do things the way they like it..... I am more of a lonewolf, which has caused me some problems with outnumbered invaders..


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by skarekrow13 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:23 pm

    Forest hunter then. Still get ganged up on but there's many many tricks like my trees.

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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:30 pm

    Spell-melee combinations? GCFB stagger + DSS pokes + extra lava damage = I win big grin


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:30 pm

    There is being creative in the forest, and then there is being RIGHT. Full leather armor, Pharis had. Parrying dagger in off hand, long sword in the main hand. That's the set up I use for hunting, and it does wonders. But truthfully, it's just the most lawless and dirty PvP area around. So, frustration is just something people will commonly face in that place. My best advice, is to just not take it too seriously. If you want better than best, check out For the Glory of Alvina in the Tomb of the Giants section. It has the tactics of me and many other hunters in there, literally like a guide to forest PvP. Also if you are getting riposted, you need more variation in your attacks. It means you are being too predictable, not something to complain about because it is a mistake on your part.
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    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:30 pm

    Or be assassin-like and use chameleon and surprise CSS >_>


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    Post by skarekrow13 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:32 pm

    Lemon buff great scythe and making them whiff

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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Heroez Blade on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:46 pm

    Thanks for the great tips so far guys... I will have to try these strategies and hopefully i will find one that works... If anybody wants to practice pvp somewhere i will gladly do that.. gt: HEROEZ BLADE117


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:18 pm

    Eh, ever since the spell swap glitch and dragon body/bow glitches have become well know the forest is utter garbage. I didnt mind it before that, although just spamming critical attacks is extremely boring. I know tolvo is going to argue that theres other ways to take out gankers, but idk what gankers hes fighting. To take out gankers effectively my methods are spam critical attacks or get em in a small area and pyro them to death. Or wrath of god works i guess. Seriously though just going and trying to fight by chipping their health away is unrealistic, especially since most use devine blessings and have x99.
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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Tolvo on Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:22 pm

    Mind you fruit, 90% of my online experience is fighting against gankers, so I probably just have a lot more experience than other people. Plus I love to take crazy risks and see them pay off, because being the Underdog is awesome.
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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:52 pm

    I used to think so too. But, the goal is different in the forest than for regular PvP. My goal is to kill gankers. Period. Anyway I can. I'll spam items; I'll chain BS; I'll run and hide behind enemies. Etc.

    If I die - who cares, it's just a game. If they taunt, who cares, they look like children. If I win = cheers cheers

    Plus, it is kinda interesting to figure out different ways to handle different gankers.


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

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    Tolvo wrote:There is being creative in the forest, and then there is being RIGHT. Full leather armor, Pharis had. Parrying dagger in off hand, long sword in the main hand. That's the set up I use for hunting, and it does wonders. But truthfully, it's just the most lawless and dirty PvP area around. So, frustration is just something people will commonly face in that place. My best advice, is to just not take it too seriously. If you want better than best, check out For the Glory of Alvina in the Tomb of the Giants section. It has the tactics of me and many other hunters in there, literally like a guide to forest PvP. Also if you are getting riposted, you need more variation in your attacks. It means you are being too predictable, not something to complain about because it is a mistake on your part.

    +1 for an awesome opening to your paragraph.
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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by ScaryPirateDude on Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:23 pm

    I think I accidentally banked in the forest tonight. I summoned help and then was invaded back to back to back ad infinitum. My help and took them down for a while before some dude came in and raped us. It took me from sl 113 to sl 118 so I'm not personally complaining, but if I ganked, I'm sorry.


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by reim0027 on Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:53 am

    In the forest, if you aren't sure if you are ganking, then you probably aren't.


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Tolvo on Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:54 am

    Ganking is summoning people for the intent of PvP, to gang up on others and give yourself an unfair advantage. What you were doing was just Co-Op, when someone invaded and it became PvP. But, you were just doing it for Co-Op, so I wouldn't call you a ganker. Just a guy who had to protect his host.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:56 am

    I have to go against that. Its one of the best places for PvP these days. The burg is worse, Parish is only good at SL 19 (another place I love to pvp against Griefers) and Sens and Btown for FC, being the only real ways to duel in DkS.... that is unless you want o be parried/smushed by some of the games best PvPers


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Tolvo on Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:58 am

    While I enjoy tooting the horns of us of FC, we're the better duellers on this site, because we specifically duel all the time. But that doesn't speak for all of Dark Souls players.
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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by ScaryPirateDude on Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:10 am

    It was my first time really winning at PvP, so it was pretty exciting. Usually I never seem to stand a chance. I'm really digging the bkga.


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    Re: Forest pvp is total CRAP

    Post by Tolvo on Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:13 am

    You should try to set up matches, we actually have some people on the site who are new to PvP, or are looking to get better at it if you are indeed. I'm willing to help out myself, I can use weaker weapons and spar with you. Not trying to kill each other, but get pacing, patterns, spacing, and timing down. Just don't ask for help from a person who is going to just BS fish you to death. Yes, it's good to learn to fight that. Just over and over killing a new player teaches them nothing.

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