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    Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:09 am

    Okay so I got to thinking that if I'm going to experiment with making builds inspired by the four horsemen, I should make it an entirely separate thread from the 7 Deadly Sins. So here is where we can put our heads together and post our ideas and builds.

    I encourage everyone to post their builds here as well. Since the horsemen are and can be interpreted in a variety of ways, all the more reason for more builds to be posted. Also feel free to post ideas for or your own lore for the horsemen if you'd like. I will post mine in the future.

    I simply just took my post from my first experimental build thread and posted it below. You can view the feed in its entirety here: http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t7994-experimental-builds-seven-deadly-sins.

    I'm going to start things off with my favorite, PESTILENCE, and below, you can read my moat recent train of thought below as well. Here is some interesting qualities of WAR and DEATH that my friend, Ziko researched and hopefully keep going:

    ZikoLogiKa NL wrote:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    will edit this post with general build ideas , mainly about suggested appearances

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    The white horse is where it gets tricky , so we'll start with War silly


    -WAR-

    The rider of the second horse is often taken to represent War or mass slaughter.
    His horse's color is red.
    In some translations, the color is specifically a "fiery" red.
    This color, as well as the rider's possession of a great sword,
    suggests blood that is to be spilled.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=3563878504894799

    -DEATH-

    The fourth and final horseman is named Death.
    Of all the riders, he is the only one to whom the text
    itself explicitly gives a name. Unlike the other three,
    he is not described carrying a weapon or other object,
    However, illustrations commonly depict him carrying a scythe ,sword, or other implement.
    The color of Death's horse is often translated as "pale", though "ashen''.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1790920745414738

    Pale white skin with green tint , perhaps occult weaponary and high unholy ''faith'' twisted

    -FAMINE-


    According to some others that posted on the Sins thread, the horsemen also have positive or more heavenly connotations, and that research will also be posted here. Thank you and happy posting! Joy


    kazumoshi wrote:
    TehInfamousAmos wrote:After that you could attempt the Four Horsemen?

    I can see pestilence now.
    TWoP, toxic and poison mist with the gravelord sword and poison knives+ dung pies.

    These were perfect suggestions for PESTILENCE. I was thinking it could also utilize acid surge too. Perhaps using weapon with high bleeding damage like a katana as a secondary weapon? Anything to add status changes and overwhelm the opponent. I was also thinking of giving it the bonewheel shield but I'm not too familiar with using it in combat. However, I am at a dead end when it comes to armor that is a good balance of protection, mobility and showing that this toon really is one of the 4 horsemen, PESTILENCE. The round table is now open once again to your suggestions. Thanks!

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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by IceIfrit666 on Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:35 am

    Why are they level 4?
    Also, Conquest should have the Great Lord Crown and some type of bow.

    "I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

    — Revelation 6:1-2"


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:55 pm

    IceIfrit666 wrote:Why are they level 4?
    Also, Conquest should have the Great Lord Crown and some type of bow.

    "I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

    — Revelation 6:1-2"


    They're level 4 because I believe he was brainstorming basically what weapons they could use and what they would look like and nothing more. I definitely like where they are going. FAMINE is going to be the toughest of the 4 I believe. That Bible quote is perfect by the way.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:20 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=3667264027512762

    bounce

    Rough draft of my version of PESTILENCE. big grin I'm not sure if I'm going to keep TWOP as it is carrying a talisman JUST for that spell. I could use that spot for a shield and use the faith points in Vit. I still am not sure what to use for a shield, rings and armor. Perhaps I could equip a ring that would grant extra attunement slots so I could use the SLs toward something else. Poison arrows of course. I'm not super familiar with all of the bows so BBoF seemed like a good choice considering it scales S with Dex, but I'm leaning toward the composite bow for strength. Obviously its key items are going to be dung pies and poison knives. Heheheh twisted


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:30 pm

    Save twop for famine(to symbolize the weakness from lack of food) also Lloyds talismans for famine so they cant drink.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:50 pm

    Very nice idea, Mildred. Thanks a lot.

    By the way, how's the Blighttown Swamp these days? I heard its buggy this time of year.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:34 pm

    Alright... I guess sarcasm and humor aren't quite working today. Haha no worries. silly

    In other news, I have made a quick draft of DEATH seeing as though it would be the easiest of the horsemen to do. I would love some feedback folks. Thanks so much! Proper Bow

    DEATH: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=4631425753805700


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:52 pm

    Cantankerous_Flood wrote:Very nice idea, Mildred. Thanks a lot.

    By the way, how's the Blighttown Swamp these days? I heard its buggy this time of year.

    Oh btown is lovely, lots of chosen one flesh to feed on. It's buggy all year round, but the fish are always biting when the bugs are out, so I can do some fly fishing while waiting for people to kill.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:20 am

    Home sweet home. Look out for dung pies. +1 for humor. I take back what I typed. Haha


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:42 am

    Here is my second draft of PESTILENCE:

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2468489082448619

    Feedback? Enjoy! cheers


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:10 pm

    I must say I love this 4 horsemen idea and the builds you are coming up with. If you ever need a horseman to ride with you I would be happy to try any of them with you.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:14 am

    Funny how you should say that my friend. I was just going to announce that I will be posting everything have made including all the up to date drafts of the 7 sins and the horsemen in the covenant section of the forum. I will be searching for comrades on both the PSN and XBLA and I would be glad to ride with you sir (or ma'am). Take your pick. Make your own tweaks, keep them as is or come up with your own interpretation. All I ask is that you post on here or on the thread coming soon.

    Here is a total recap of everything I've planned so far:

    Sinister Se7en:
    WRATH http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2307069265268824
    GREED http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1582668248693889
    ENVY http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2528547026246845
    GLUTTONY http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=4242974985912829
    SLOTH http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1508453063003613
    LUST http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2729006926436636
    PRIDE (needs work) http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2264617514028666[/quote]

    Ascendants of the Apocalypse:
    DEATH http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=3765820265429821
    PESTILENCE/CONQUEST (needs work) http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2468489082448619


    They are all under construction until the builds are actually completed ingame so as always, the suggestion box is open. I look forward to delving deeper into this with you, Mildred.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:19 pm

    Just a small idea about death. I think a swap of the shield for the skull lantern would look great, give it more of a death feel and as the scythe works better 2handed won't effect the effectiveness too much, but would look so cool with a skull on its hip.... Just an idea.

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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:02 pm

    Nice touch, ma'am. Thanks for confirming that Haha silly .

    That would be terrific for aesthetic purposes and ill see if I can move some stuff around, but i'm really just trying to keep the builds as battle efficient as possible. In my humble opinion, the skull lantern seems a bit useless in battle. If only the light could be used to temporarily blind the opponent, I'd be all over that. I'll see what I can do. big grin

    Breaking Bad is by far the best show on tv and im not just saying that because I heard it on ads on AMC. Got all 4 seasons on dvd myself and im 2 episodes into season 5. Kind of sad this is the final season and double sad that'd its split. But I guess its like having two short seasons rather than it ending this summer.[quote]


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:38 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/9zcbux9

    My version of War

    Why orange chared ring? It's to symbolize the fiery horse.

    Why undead raport? It fits his character. It is writen that he has the power to make men kill each other.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:41 pm

    Also, I have a few other ideas.

    I think death should have the ring of fog to make him pale.

    I think conquest should have the dragonslayer great bow.

    I think Famine should have ring of the evil eye and the server, so it's like you're stealing their health.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by Knight Alundil on Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:51 pm

    The only thing I dont like about it is death having two scythes. I just dont get it silly Otherwise this looks cool as f***!

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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:02 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/9shkq6f
    My version of Conquest.

    EDIT: I added Wrath of the Gods


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:23 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/8e6kquh

    Another version of death.

    Also it is said that he was followed by Hades. So here is a version of him.

    http://tinyurl.com/9hxn9r4
    I would have used just the armor of the great lord, but then he would just be Gwyn


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:39 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/9shkq6f -> Conquest

    http://tinyurl.com/9zcbux9 -> War

    http://tinyurl.com/94blx93 -> Death

    http://tinyurl.com/9hxn9r4 -> Death's tag - along, Hades

    WE STILL NEED FAMINE!

    for more info ->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse

    Also can someone move this list to the begining please.

    (Yes, I think I just hijacked the thread, but only untill Cantankerous_Flood returns to finish it.)

    EDIT: Death updated by Xuitus's sugestion.


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by XuitusTheGreat on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:30 pm

    hmmmm

    -war: http://tinyurl.com/8k8rury

    -conquest: http://tinyurl.com/9v935lb

    -famine: http://tinyurl.com/9zzlpjb chose darkmoon for this one so you can invade while hollowed and appear very thin and gaunt

    -death: http://tinyurl.com/8twywns

    where you guys getting pestilence?


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:07 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/9s5qvpt

    A version of Famine


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:15 pm

    The 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse


    http://tinyurl.com/8uthcne -> Conquest

    http://tinyurl.com/9zcbux9 -> War

    http://tinyurl.com/979yzpw -> Famine

    http://tinyurl.com/94blx93 -> Death

    http://tinyurl.com/9hxn9r4 -> Hades (He follows Death, but is not really a horseman.)

    Fell free to post changes.

    Also, can we get the list moved to the begining, please?

    EDIT: Famine update - I gave it a target shield

    EDIT: Conquesstt update - I gave it TWoP


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by XuitusTheGreat on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:34 pm

    I dont understand ur famine, what represents famine and starvation in it ? o-o


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    Re: Experimental builds: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

    Post by WandererReece on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:49 pm

    XuitusTheGreat wrote:I dont understand ur famine, what represents famine and starvation in it ? o-o

    Its hard to create something that is starving or starving others.

    Famine starved the poor peasents, but left the nobility alone... at first.

    This build is dressed in ragggedy clothes and runing around "stealing" other players' health. Also it makes them move slowly like they are weakened.


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