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    Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by The_Dark_Dreamer on Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:28 pm

    I've been looking around the forums and couldn't find this topic, if it has been discussed then sorry guys.
    With my build I have 50 faith so I was trying to find some good weapons to use for the modifiers. I've seen people say a lot of different things when it comes to this topic but I landed on sunlight straight sword and Ricard's Raper.
    SSS at divine+10 giving; 137phy170mag110div with a modifier of B faith.
    RR at +5 Occult gives; 125phy132mag110occ with a modifier of A faith.

    I would like to see what other heavy faith builds are using and what they think is the best weapons and miracles to use.
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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:33 pm

    Pick your best weapon that your stats fit (dex scaling weapons or str scaling weapons), get them to +15, and light them up with DMB or SLB. IMO, Divine and Occult are less powerful than unbuffed +15s (with appropriate stats that is). When you buff them . . . watch out.

    Speaking of which, what're your stats, rings, and armor?

    EDIT: weapons that have multiple types of damage are usually weaker than those with only one. So, weapons that have damage split between magic and physical, are weaker. This is because of they go through two reductions in damage, based on your opponent's defenses.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by The_Dark_Dreamer on Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:46 pm

    Good tips, currently;
    Uchigatana+15 with SLB (after reading your tip) and sunlight talisman
    Grass Crest shield
    Mask of the Child
    Brass armor+5
    Havels Gauntlets
    Brass Legs+5
    FAP ring and DWG ring
    SL 107 Vit 25 Att 16 End 27 Str 24 Dex 25 Res 12 Int 9 Fth 50
    Stats a lil all over because of experimentation and playing mostly PvE


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by Ghadis_God on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:17 pm

    I have an Occult Halberd +5 at 50 Faith, and it's a more than decent weapon, with more than 550 AR. I also buff a +14 BSS and a +15 Clay with DMB but I only have 16 Str and 14 Dex.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by zzombieboy on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:28 pm

    I was just about to suggest Dvine Gargoyle's Halberd +10. Thats what I use for a faith build usually, as a secondary weapon. 570 AR with 50 faith, and a little added bleed resist and poison resist happy


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:35 pm

    maybe the crescent axe? its nice and has range for an axe..

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2556488527825795

    this isn't a real build... just the stats i'd recommend for the crecent axe.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:37 pm

    I present you, my monster occult girl.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=2376763011097690

    The trick is, have weapons with base stats (str and dex) and buff them with DMB. Once DMB runs out, menu swap ANY occult/divine weapon you like. From spears to great scythes, katanas to zweihs.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by Ghadis_God on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:43 pm

    That's exactly what I do on my DM Wyrm. I second that strategy for OP.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:43 pm

    You can't look at weapon AR. That doesn't compute to actual damage. For example, Elemental weapons generally are weaker than +15s, even though their ARs are higher. And, if you run into someone with decent magic defense, you're in serious trouble.

    The best thing to do is a damage test. If you can't find a person to do it, the humanoid enemies in the Forest are a reasonable alternative.

    IMO, pure physical is where it's at. When I've tried the Divine or Occult at faith 50, I wasn't happy with the damage. I'd at least have a +15 as a backup, in case your Divine or Occult isn't cutting it.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by zzombieboy on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:00 pm

    reim0027 wrote:You can't look at weapon AR. That doesn't compute to actual damage. For example, Elemental weapons generally are weaker than +15s, even though their ARs are higher. And, if you run into someone with decent magic defense, you're in serious trouble.

    The best thing to do is a damage test. If you can't find a person to do it, the humanoid enemies in the Forest are a reasonable alternative.

    IMO, pure physical is where it's at. When I've tried the Divine or Occult at faith 50, I wasn't happy with the damage. I'd at least have a +15 as a backup, in case your Divine or Occult isn't cutting it.

    Yeah, that's why I keep elemental weapons as secondary for when a buff runs out (if I'm playing a buff build). Faith or Int is usually much higer than dex or str on these build types, so even though it's split damage, a max level divine/enchanted etc weapon usually still outdamges a +15, because of the lower str or dex (for example - this )


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by The_Dark_Dreamer on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:06 pm

    I'm gonna try giving the occult Ricard's Rapier and crescent axe a shot.
    how do you guys feel about SLB to DMB?


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:12 pm

    In terms of stat investment, you've got a good point. Dark, what's your target SL? You've got Str and Dex evenly spaced. The Clay might be a good weapon here (might, I'm not sure).

    Basically, weapon choice should be weapon first, then upgrade second. My favorites are:

    • Rapier
    • Estoc
    • Balder Side Sword
    • Washing Pole
    • Gargoyle Halverd
    • Halberd
    • Clay
    • Great Club
    • Murakumo
    • Zweihander
    • Great Scythe


    Long list, I know. But, those are my favorites. You'll get a variety of opinions here.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by zzombieboy on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:14 pm

    DMB is much better happy It also scales with you Darkmoon Covenant level, so if you offer souvenir of reprisals to Gywndolin to get your level to +2 it will be even stronger.

    Also, I agree with Reim - Claymore would be good for you happy


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:15 pm

    SLB for coolness, but DMB is more powerful.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by The_Dark_Dreamer on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:22 pm

    I am a fan of the greatswords, been using a Fire zweihander mostly and I love it.
    Hmm ok so DMB a +15claymore and I'll stick an occult rapier in my pocket for later.
    I'm aiming for SL 125 and allocating the rest of my points in End and Vit.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by Pennder on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:58 pm

    I enjoy my Crescent Axe a lot on my Faith guy. Not the best damage, or moveset, but with 50 faith it does the job. Plus, I think it looks cool, and extra points for not being quite as common a weapon, in my experience.
    Basically it is a Battle Axe, with split divine damage based largely on faith stat, and a long handle/shaft that gives it deceptively long reach for its type. You cannot buff it, though.
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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:01 am

    my sir piggy build used it before he retired, i'll try to remember him and post his stats here.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=3720699427784653

    there we go!


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by Gaxe on Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:20 am

    The Dragonslayer Spear scales with Faith at a B rating and DEX at a B rating.
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    Post by The_Dark_Dreamer on Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:15 pm

    @sparkly
    Some interesting armor there lol.


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    Post by RANT on Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:06 pm

    Grant!!!


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:13 pm

    DMB in fact is worse - can be completely nullified by Greater Magic Barrier and people tend to have higher magic resist than lightning.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by Ghadis_God on Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:20 pm

    But because AR has increasing returns, wouldn't the damage boost on DMB compensate for the higher magic defense? And who really carries great magic barrier around? I think they're equally balanced all things said.


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    Re: Best weapons for Faith builds

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:40 pm

    I walk around with GMB - I have it to counter CMW and DMB - it also ruins WoG etc and Divine, Occult, Enchanted and magic weapons.


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