Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

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    Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:37 pm

    Okay so I have this theory that I came up with today after reading the first few pages of these following threads:

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t7909-extinguish-the-bonfires-no-bonfire-run

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t1876-theory-destroying-the-ash-lake-dragon-spoilers

    Quite honestly (and respectfully), I'm too lazy and impatient to read through all 28 pages of the first one, so I would appreciate it if someone could enlighten me if my idea below has already been said. Thanks!

    Let's just get this part out of the way: I believe that one of the keys of this legendary third ending/easter egg lies within having the Pendant as a starting gift.

    I read through the thread mentioned above and noticed a lot of people talking about the infamous and invincible Stone Dragon in Ash Lake. My original thought was to use the Dragonslayer Spear to kill the Stone Dragon at the bottom of the lake. More specifically, the dragon's arse. lol The weapon's description just seemed to fit:

    Cross spear born from the Soul of Ornstein, a
    Dragonslayer guarding Anor Londo cathedral.
    Inflicts lightning damage; effective against
    dragons. Two-handed thrust relies on cross
    and buries spear deep within a dragon's hide
    ,
    and sends human foes flying.


    However, someone already tried that to no resolution, and I see the logic in the whole "attack the Everlasting Dragon with LIGHTNING TOXIC FIRE in that order because that's what it says in the intro" thing, but I believe we are now thinking too hard about it. So it got me thinking more broadly about the various run-throughs people have been trying:

    Max kindling on all bonfires
    Extinguish all bonfires
    Never lighting any bonfires
    , etc. etc.

    These theories, too, never worked, so I came to the conclusion that we may need to think outside of the box (perhaps literally?) when finding the mystical third ending. We need to do something that I'm sure no one has tried yet. It could be right under our noses, but one of the most difficult tasks we would take on. Here me out:

    Because FROM's hook-phrase with Dark Souls is PREPARE TO DIE, why not deny FROM of that power over us and do a NO DEATH RUN through the game and see what happens. :shock: I would do it, but I do not have the patience nor the skill for such a task. Careful planning must be done before hand, and most importantly, make sure you start with the Pendant. Maybe it'll vibrate or something. :affraid:

    Then again, this might have already been done and could just be another dead end...


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Bloodios on Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:44 pm

    This... might the most challenging task I might be attempting yet, but it is doable if I utilized Cloud...


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:45 pm

    I'm an idiot. It wouldn't work because you have to let invincible Seath kill you when you first meet him. However, that is just a story event so it might not even count. There has to be more to this...


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Bloodios on Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:50 pm

    Cantankerous_Flood wrote:I'm an idiot. It wouldn't work because you have to let invincible Seath kill you when you first meet him.
    Actually, you don't have to die.
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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:58 pm

    Bloodios wrote:
    Cantankerous_Flood wrote:I'm an idiot. It wouldn't work because you have to let invincible Seath kill you when you first meet him.
    Actually, you don't have to die.

    Thank you sir. You have restored my faith in this theory, but not for much longer because as I am looking it up, I am noticing that people have already tried this before. Maybe no death run + max bonfires/no bonfires? Seems unbelievably impossible. :affraid:


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by dianaduh on Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:28 pm

    you dont have to die but i dont think that shortcut was intentionally.
    I'm not sure about this no death run, even because i thin this prepare to die must be just marketing since the difficulty of Demon's Souls was what got the attention.
    Although as we dont know about this third ending, every possibility should not be discarted. When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

    I have this insight about the pendant, that we may reach a third ending after NG, as even From said that many playthroughs were needed. I also heard something, however its not confirmed if its true, that someone that was sl 700+ found a new ending related to some useless said item.
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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:53 pm

    Over SL 700 huh? Maybe instead of devising so many schemes, we should just stick to playing it. It's not like there are any trophies for completing the game in one sitting or something obnoxious like that. lol


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by dianaduh on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:13 pm

    lol is just the lvl the guy said he was, may be is not important, may be the pendant literally has no use

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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Scirvir on Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:34 pm

    You could also slap a ring of sacrifice on before you go into the fog. Curious, when you have it on, a little humanity symbol pops up to let you know you're wearing it.

    Also with your spear theory - Ornstein's Leo Ring description tells how 'His Lugged Spear is said to have split a boulder in two' or something to that effect. A 'boulder' is stone.. the dragon is stone.. Electric Wizard is stoner metal. As to what that has to do with anything...I'm not really sure. But I thought I'd add it in for flavor.
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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:45 am

    Scirvir wrote:You could also slap a ring of sacrifice on before you go into the fog. Curious, when you have it on, a little humanity symbol pops up to let you know you're wearing it.

    Also with your spear theory - Ornstein's Leo Ring description tells how 'His Lugged Spear is said to have split a boulder in two' or something to that effect. A 'boulder' is stone.. the dragon is stone.. Electric Wizard is stoner metal. As to what that has to do with anything...I'm not really sure. But I thought I'd add it in for flavor.

    Which fog in the game do you speak of?
    I was looking for that quote, but I forgot that it was from his RING and not from the spear. Has anyone tried hitting the STONE Dragon with the DSS + Leo Ring? I deleted all my old toons and started fresh so I'm not quite there yet.



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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by ICEFANG on Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:42 am

    I have beaten the game without dying. Its not that hard once you get excellent at it, but I'd never suggest being human.


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:45 am

    Why not use the lightning in the lake? I'd assume you could atleast super charge the lake with say... a sunlight spear?


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Scirvir on Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:25 am

    Cantankerous_Flood wrote:Which fog in the game do you speak of?



    The one right before invincible Seath. Technically, you wouldn't die - it'd say 'Ring Revived' and you'd start at the prison bonfire with all your souls/humanity in tow.
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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by fireLESS on Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:53 pm

    This is a very good idea...


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    Re: Easter Egg Theory - NO DEATH RUN

    Post by Cantankerous_Flood on Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:00 pm

    Scirvir wrote:
    Cantankerous_Flood wrote:Which fog in the game do you speak of?



    The one right before invincible Seath. Technically, you wouldn't die - it'd say 'Ring Revived' and you'd start at the prison bonfire with all your souls/humanity in tow.

    Oh I see what you're talking about. However, technically, you would die because the screen will say YOU DIED. You simply wouldn't lose anything. I really like the idea in the video that Bloodios posted (http://youtu.be/LmjyufcyhR0 just in case you missed it), and I think that's the best way to avoid death against invincible Seath. I wonder if you'd still be able to fight him in the cave or if it would cause the game to glitch. Can anyone confirm?

    @fireLESS: Are you being sarcastic? Haha, I wouldn't be surprised since the no death run has already been done to no avail. Prostration


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