Is my build appropriate for PvP?

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    Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by OgnarPliskin on Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:47 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=4341044486616747

    In spite of my level, and in spite of the skill and swinging battles I have with others, they seem to completely trounce me. Either their weapons break my poise, or they have a magic buff, or I'm not doing damage to them, etc.

    Before I get into tactics, I just want to make sure I don't need any further modifications for now.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:57 pm

    you need your poise over 53 to avoid one-hit stunlock by greatswords, 76 will prevent one-hit stagger from ultra greatswords, also lightning weapons are popular in pvp and your choice of armor has terrible lightning defense...

    switch the gauntlets and legs you're wearing for havels gauntlets and legs, that'll get you better lightning defense and 76 poise.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by OgnarPliskin on Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:58 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:you need your poise over 53 to avoid one-hit stunlock by greatswords, 76 will prevent one-hit stagger from ultra greatswords

    I feel like I need to sacrifice something. I could use the Wolf Ring to boost my Poise, but then I would be losing either my ninja flip or the epic stats boost.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:01 am

    whoops should have posted my suggestion in another post rather than editing, use havels arms and legs, they'll get you enough poise and you have the weight to equip them too.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by OgnarPliskin on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:02 am

    Then I'll look ugly...


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:03 am

    then just the gauntlets, they'll get you over 56 and they're the best looking part of the armor set.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:07 am

    also those 28 int points aren't doing you any good, pyromancy doesn't scale with anything... get a catalyst like logans or even the basic sorceror catalyst and pick up the crystal magic weapon spell to buff your claymore with.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by OgnarPliskin on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:08 am

    I know. I thought I was going to use the Moonlight Greatsword to burst through Defense, and it backfired; it does horrible damage.

    I'm crippled with 18 useless points of INT and have no idea what to do with it.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:13 am

    their not useless, thats just enough int to use a powerful (and imo the prettiest) buff, even just great magic weapon would help alot and you can pick that up in anorlondo..


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by OgnarPliskin on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:14 am

    I have Great Magic Weapon, but how do I use it?

    Do I have to turn my Claymore into a Magic Claymore +10?


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:37 am

    No, it adds magic damage equal to 1.1x your catalyst's Madjust stat to any +15 path weapon. You catalyst needs to be in your left hand. The best catalyst at your Int level is the Oolacile Ivory Catalyst.

    For example, that catalyst's adjust is 180, so it will add 198 points of magic damage to the AR of your claymore, topping it at 651, not incredible but very decent. You can also use CMW to buff it with the same cat for around 260 extra points of Magic AR.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:41 am

    Ghadis_God wrote:No, it adds magic damage equal to 1.4x your catalyst's Madjust stat to any +15 path weapon. You catalyst needs to be in your left hand. The best catalyst at your Int level is the Oolacile Ivory Catalyst.
    Fixed it for you.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:45 am

    DoughGuy wrote:
    Ghadis_God wrote:No, it adds magic damage equal to 1.4x your catalyst's Madjust stat to any +15 path weapon. You catalyst needs to be in your left hand. The best catalyst at your Int level is the Oolacile Ivory Catalyst.
    Fixed it for you.
    No, you didn't. He was asking about GMW.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by DamageCK on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:02 am

    And actually, just so there's no confusion, the buff applies to weapons that you've upgraded through the standard path. So anything elemental/magic is excluded, along with boss weapons and bows. Since you've already put the points in intel, your best bet is an intelligence weapon buff. Or get some casts like Hidden Weapon/Body and Chameleon. Great for PvP and low-lowish intel builds.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:04 am

    No to the Clay - it is better at +15.

    The Black Bow of Pharis probably isn't the best bow. Get the Composite Bow instead.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by Gaxe on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:12 am

    I'll remake your build give me a second.
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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by Gaxe on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:16 am

    Here, this should help, i could of made it better but i'm taking you don't want to create a whole new character silly http://tinyurl.com/cn2qyp8
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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by swordiris on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:18 am

    Any build can be good for pvp. I have two zero poise characters with no DWGR and I'm doing fine pvping with them.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by Gaxe on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:24 am

    swordiris wrote:Any build can be good for pvp. I have two zero poise characters with no DWGR and I'm doing fine pvping with them.

    Oh yeah pvp with a broken sword hilt silly and no armor or rings. and SL1 and show me it's good in pvp.
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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by swordiris on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:27 am

    Gaxe wrote:
    swordiris wrote:Any build can be good for pvp. I have two zero poise characters with no DWGR and I'm doing fine pvping with them.

    Oh yeah pvp with a broken sword hilt silly and no armor or rings. and SL1 and show me it's good in pvp.

    Just buff that with CMW and good to go! silly


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:35 am

    Gaxe wrote:
    swordiris wrote:Any build can be good for pvp. I have two zero poise characters with no DWGR and I'm doing fine pvping with them.

    Oh yeah pvp with a broken sword hilt silly and no armor or rings. and SL1 and show me it's good in pvp.
    I think the word "build" implies that the character is specialized and that its stats and equipment are selected to serve a certain purpose. Just unequipping everything and using the weakest weapon isn't a build.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:31 pm

    its quite possible to kill with the sword hilt... with slb it deals 500 or so a hit and is fast.... and i just came up with an interesting greatsword idea, it has low damage (dagger level) and looks small, but when you buff it the buff forms a blade, and lasts 3 minutes, the sword also only has d scaling.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:40 pm

    swordiris wrote:
    Gaxe wrote:
    swordiris wrote:Any build can be good for pvp. I have two zero poise characters with no DWGR and I'm doing fine pvping with them.

    Oh yeah pvp with a broken sword hilt silly and no armor or rings. and SL1 and show me it's good in pvp.

    Just buff that with CMW and good to go! silly

    try and buff at SL1?


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by OgnarPliskin on Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:02 pm

    I've updated my character.

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1628038923449784

    I equipped Havel's Gauntlets and I'm using Crystal Magic Weapon now. Recently started New Game++.


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    Re: Is my build appropriate for PvP?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:09 pm

    Try the man-serpent greatsword. Even at +14 it'll do more damage than your clay.


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