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    SL 120 will die

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:19 pm

    What would happen to the unofficial cap of SL 120 if fromsoftware patch the DWGR to say.... <25% equipload????

    Builds would just have minimum endurance (ie. 70 End) to be able to flip anyways. Thus increasing the SL cap. Would you do this? Do you think DWGR is fromsoftware's answer to PvP mode? (like Demon's Souls <50% equipload fast roll). Would you actually PvP with medium roll???


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by RANT on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:23 pm

    most of my builds now dont use the dwgr, it helps a lot but you dont need it. and people alreay got to sl 1300 anyway, from what ive seen the majority of the pvp'ers dotn care about level cap.


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:25 pm

    I already do well without the flip, and I do medium roll when duelling, or I did. Right now I'm relearning the game so the DWGR is a nice crutch for now. But I wouldn't mind, hell I'd welcome it.
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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by RANT on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:27 pm

    yeah tolvo, i thin most people would welcome it since it's one of the most disliked ring in the game cause everyone has the same thrree builds because of it.


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:31 pm

    People on this forum might like it, but the majority of players probably wouldn't haha.
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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by RANT on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:33 pm

    Tolvo wrote:People on this forum might like it, but the majority of players probably wouldn't haha.

    i keep seeign people in the burg(which really surprised me) that are using fast roll and are really good. there's not a lot of them though.


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by isthefridge on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:44 pm

    On my pve build i use the cloranthy ring (in place of the dwgr) with rofap


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:00 pm

    Wouldn't bother me a whole lot. I wouldn't mind using lighter armor to fast roll and the wolf ring.


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Azran on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:22 pm

    Yeah, I've never used the DWGR in PvP; I consider Cloranthy to be way better. Hence, I constantly mid roll.
    I don't think From really cares about PvP, but if that were the case, I guess people would fight naked rather than losing their oh so precious Lightning Zweihanders and fast rolls. silly


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:39 pm

    Azran wrote:Yeah, I've never used the DWGR in PvP; I consider Cloranthy to be way better. Hence, I constantly mid roll.
    I don't think From really cares about PvP, but if that were the case, I guess people would fight naked rather than losing their oh so precious Lightning Zweihanders and fast rolls. silly

    If they nerfed the DWGR Havel McZweiflippers would cry...sad


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:33 pm

    Yea ive noticed a lot of people outside of these forums complain about it also. Not to mention the large amount of players that most likely just stopped playing the game not long after release. You all must remember the massive amounts of people ***** about flipping tanks when the game came out and people first started getting invaded. A lot of those players most likely gave up on pvp, not because they didnt know how to defeat them but because it looked ridiculous. The strongest argument next to the i-frames and added equip load is how horribly ridiculous it looks.
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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:35 pm

    tons of crying derp masks lol. If they nerf it, they should add a new mask(the crying derp). It will allow you to cry alone in silence without interruption.

    Edit: i actually dont understand why from has the max lvl at 714, i understand people want to have freedom but is that really necessary. I think making 225 or something the max lvl would make a lot more sense. Especially with how invasions work.


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Fotitudo on Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:37 pm

    I play with Big hat and black sorcerer set, i dont care about this ring! In my opinion From should nerf this "thing" harder than the crystal ring shield!
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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by isthefridge on Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:49 pm

    From cannot predict the innovation of its gaming community. Also for every strength there is a weakness, I have won and lost against zweiflippers & Tank Flippers. It makes no difference b/c i fight the same way for almost every fight. Also id like to say I would rather duel a flipper then a red tear hornets rings lag stabber


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Federally on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:01 pm

    The problem with med rolling and fat rolling is the lag + bs mechanic, ninja flipping looks stupid as hell and really is an immersion breaker IMO but fix the BS mechanic and it is no longer a necessity and we will see more creative builds.


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by RANT on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:12 pm

    if they get rid of the dwgr roll bs will be no more wich im pretty sure everyone will welcome. except the guys that do nothing but roll bs.


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by lextune on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:16 pm

    Dear From:

    A shield on one's back should negate a backstab.

    ....problem solved!

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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Federally on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:33 pm

    lextune wrote:Dear From:

    A shield on one's back should negate a backstab.

    ....problem solved!

    big grin

    That will create many new problems


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by isthefridge on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:35 pm

    I second the the NO BS when shield on the back idea


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by omega Elf on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:43 pm

    From arn't stupid, things are the way they are for a reason, start nerfing stuff and it all goes to ****
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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by StockpileThomas on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:04 pm

    lextune wrote:Dear From:

    A shield on one's back should negate a backstab.

    ....problem solved!

    big grin

    That would be SO good; backstabbers would be forced to actually fight.
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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:06 pm

    StockpileThomas wrote:
    lextune wrote:Dear From:

    A shield on one's back should negate a backstab.

    ....problem solved!

    big grin

    That would be SO good; backstabbers would be forced to actually fight.

    Or everyone would 2-hand a Murakumo with the Grass Crest Shield on their backs...

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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by isthefridge on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:12 pm

    StockpileThomas wrote:
    lextune wrote:Dear From:

    A shield on one's back should negate a backstab.

    ....problem solved!

    big grin

    That would be SO good; backstabbers would be forced to actually fight.

    One benny i see from this the runaway BS. but i also see it as a downside as well. I have had to chase down healers and the BS is the best way to catch em


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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:16 pm

    ^that, well both above me,lol. I was thinking that if your shield is on your back having the defenses of it worked into how much dmg the backstab does would be interesting. 100%physical defense shields would be really useful lol, that would be great against the whole str weapon bs fish. Str builds would get good use out of great shields(havels especially). It would throw everything for a loop, but im all for backstabs doing less dmg. You could still parry, but it would make not having a shield on your back a huge weakness. I dont know, things need to be tested to be sure. I dont think it would work personally
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    Re: SL 120 will die

    Post by Federally on Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:01 pm

    It's an idea that sounds nice but would really *** things up if put in. It would ruin everything lol. Since BS is the fulcrum of PvP at the moment everyone would constantly two hand their weapon, meaning blocking sucks, parrying is no more, and you don't have to worry about giving up your back. Best build immediately becomes full havels with GCS on the back and a big weapon with a sweeping attack with a lot of range. PvP would be ruined


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