BSS or Estoc?

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    BSS or Estoc?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:06 am

    Making a spellsword build, and I need a fast backup weapon.

    I'm tired of using Katanas and Spears, and I've never done a class with either a Rapier or the BSS.

    I've (sorta) narrowed it down between these two. The build has 40 Dex and 16 strength and both will be used primarily with Crystal Magic Weapon.

    Which is better in this scenario?


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by Alara78 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:09 am

    My favourite out of those 2 is the BSS, however the Estoc is also a nifty little weapon. Depends on your preference in moveset I guess. As far as damage is concerned, I don't think they differ that much.
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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:12 am

    Alara78 wrote:My favourite out of those 2 is the BSS, however the Estoc is also a nifty little weapon. Depends on your preference in moveset I guess. As far as damage is concerned, I don't think they differ that much.
    In damage the BSS takes it, but the Estoc has superior range as well as the ability to turtle. I suppose I should mention this is going to accompany a MLGS as a primary.


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by Rynn on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:21 am

    Both weapons have the same range.
    You are selecting inbetween attack speed and damage per hit.
    Or turtling.
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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by tofucactaur on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:21 am

    I am currently making a spellsword (although I will probs take way longer due to your giftwraith experience) and recently I have noticed how powerful the great scythe is, hence this;
    http://tinyurl.com/c3c6q42
    I personally find the great scythe to be quite fast, I love playing with no lock and doing running attacks, and am thinking that I am going to get some decent damage with buffing it plus 45 dex, I think this approach to using the scythe will work well with homing soul mass aswell....am 6 hours in to this toon, am round lvl 50...getting there


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:23 am

    Buff your BSS, make your Estoc an Enchanted one.

    Problem solved.

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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by Gazman0169 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:43 am

    For me the BSS wins hands down every time! twisted


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by isthefridge on Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:22 am

    BSS


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by FrEyes on Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:28 am

    BSS for its awesome looks and move set


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by darkREPRISAL on Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:44 am

    Another vote for the BSS here too. Buffed with the power of the Darkmoons preferably


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:23 pm

    the estoc is deadly but requires a lot of waiting to work, a jab here an r2 there to pick your opponents apart, you could try the regular rapier which only does a little less damage and has a nasty critical, plus its r2 dash is really useful.


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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by TheBigLebowski on Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:46 pm

    Estoc. BSS is overrated. But use whatever works best for you, is it the BSS well all the best to you.
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    Re: BSS or Estoc?

    Post by BLA1NE on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:41 pm

    Depends on your build.

    Lightly-armored, fragile (glass cannon): Estoc

    Decent armor, good survivability: BSS

    The Estoc, as a piercing sword, allows you to poke and roll right away, so you're very hard to hit when you use it properly. This makes it a weapon well-suited for fragile builds that must avoid getting hit at all costs (great back-up weapon for mages). The BSS is a more well-rounded weapon but it doesn't allow you to get out of danger as quickly, so it's better suited to builds that are meant for melee confrontation.

    Since your primary melee weapon is the MLGS, this changes things a bit. The MLGS tells me your build probably has the survivability necessary to wield the BSS. But at the same time, the BSS doesn't offer very much to complement the MLGS--I mean, I don't really see any reason to pick either one over the other in any given scenario; they're equivalent. No point wielding two equivalent weapons. So I'd go with the Estoc, and fall back on it when you get low on health, to get some safe poke-and-roll hits to whittle down your opponent. Then, if you like, once you've whittled him down enough, you can even switch back to the MLGS for the finishing blow. This way each weapon has a role to play in forming an offensive strategy.


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