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    Post by retro on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:00 am

    Has there been an attempt to make an organized list of all the unused dialog in the game?

    I just spent some time organizing all of the voice audio ripped from the game into folders for each character, so I should be able to check every character. I believe that essentially all or most of the unused dialog can already be found in the text dump, however I've found a couple small things that aren't in there. Because the text dump is based on subtitles for the audio, things that don't get subtitles (like certain mumbling) will have their own audio files that are unaccounted for. I've also found a couple alternate takes, one of which seems to be unaccounted for in the text dump because it's worded slightly differently.

    I believe the text dump also has a couple things in there that is unused but isn't labeled as unused, so I figure it might be worth separating. I'm not expecting to find anything major... quite the opposite, I'm hoping I can put to rest speculation about unheard/ lesser-heard dialog. The only reason I haven't listened to it all yet is because the files were a complete mess, initially, and there's plenty of redundancy to deal with.

    So here's what I propose- If I find anything that isn't already covered in the complete dialog youtube videos, I'll ask if anyone knows a way to trigger a certain dialog from a character. If it can't be done or isn't known how, then it'll be edited into a list in this post.

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    Anastacia of Astora:
    There are 17 different samples of her going "mmm", "ugghh", or similar. Some make it sound like her mouth is shut and she's trying to speak, others she sounds like she may be groaning or in pain, or getting injured/ killed.

    There is also one word spoken that sounds like "veritas".
    Crestfallen Merchant:
    There is audio of the Crestfallen merchant going mad:

    -..... Hrrg... ...Rrgggg... ...Rrrrrgggg... ...Hrrrggaaaagghhh...
    -Think! think!... remember, remember!
    -Remember... count... count, yeah... count!
    -Counts number one... one, two, three, fff... four, fff..ffive, fivesix, seven!
    -Count! Arghh.. Hrmmm!! ... I can't... Hrrgggggggg!!
    Oscar of Astora:

    Phrases cut from the following are underlined:

    -Oh, you... You're no Hollow, eh? ...Thank goodness... ...I'm done for, I'm afraid... ...My insides are damaged... ...I'll die soon, then lose my sanity... ...I can feel it coming... ...I wish to ask something of you... ...You are a godsend, to come at this moment... ...Hah hah... ...You and I, we're both Undead... Hear me out, will you?

    -...hng...hng... ...Thank you for hearing me out... Now I can die with hope in my heart...

    -The key is there... ...Please, come quickly... ...It is your fate...

    Dialogue from an unused storyline. You would meet Oscar outside of the Asylum. He could then help you in the forest and would eventually become an antagonist regardless of which Primordial Serpent you side with:

    -A pleasure to meet you. Sage Frampt has spoken to me about you. I am Oscar of Astora. I wish to thank you for ringing the Bell of Awakening. I have received the word of Sage Frampt. I will be fine. You ought to focus on yourself. May we each fulfil our respective purposes!

    -I am preparing to leave. I will follow Sage Frampt's instructions, and will seek Anor Londo by way of Sen's Fortress. I hope that we meet again somewhere, one day.

    -A pleasure to meet you. Sage Frampt has spoken to me about you. I am Oscar of Astora. I am told that you rang the Bell of Awakening, and received the word of Frampt. That is a wonderful thing. We are all counting on you. I only wish that I had such a purpose.

    -I am preparing to leave. I cannot just stay here. I must find my own purpose. I hope that we meet again somewhere, one day.

    -Well, how long has it been? Glad to see you safe. You must be the same as I; in search of the grave of Sir Artorias. But, be careful. This forest is the territory of a fierce band of thieves. They assault any and all who seek the graves.... What if we were to join forces? How about that? If we worked together, we may escape the bandits. Does that appeal to you?

    -Very well. Let us keep our wits about us. One can always do with another pair of eyes...

    -Yes, I see... No matter. May we meet again. I pray for your success.

    -Things appear to have settled. I was right to partner with you. Thank you. We don't need to band together any more. I will have a short rest here. Feel free to go on ahead....

    -So, it was you... I had a feeling... I shall destroy you, as fate has commanded me... Foolish pawn of Darkstalker Kaathe... And fiendish Dark Lord...... I have waited for thee......

    -Foolish slave of the Gods, and pawn of Frampt...... I will kill you...... And become the true Dark Lord...
    Shiva of the East:
    -Have you heard of Chaos Blade? The legendary sword of the ancient Undead master Makoto, its blade a swirling vortex. I heard it's somewhere around here, but I can't find it. ...It's all I could ever wish for... ...I'd do anything to have it..

    -Why, look at you! Just wait will you! Your sword! Is it not... the Chaos Blade...? I've been searching for her for ages! ...I beg of you, and I promise repay you... Will you give the sword to me?

    -...Yes, quite alright, I cannot blame you. The blade is yours, after all.

    -Excellent! Much gratitude! As promised, this is for you. Go ahead, take it.

    -Ahh, splendid, the Chaos Blade... Look into the vortex... Wonderful... Simply wonderful... Oh my, oh my... But the sword's true value...hmm... Can't be known without a good killing... ...So, I will do the honourable thing... ...And kill you for it...

    -Don't you run away! Be still you rat! Taste my blade, taste it, you devil! Hee hee! Hee, hee hee hee!

    -This is what you get for crossing me. Have a look at my sword, for it's the last thing you'll see!

    -Red...the colour of blood... Hee hee...hee...

    -By the devils... You won't be able to run far enough...

    -What a wonderful specimen... Like slicing through butter... Hee, hee, nee hee hee!

    -Your ambitions have sealed your fate. But, who'd have thought I'd be the traitor? Sometimes you never know, do you... Keh heh heh heh!
    Unknown Character, possibly Queelag:
    -Go back. Forbidden be, these parts. The realm of the creatures of chaos. They accept their banished fate.

    -Go back. Lest the flames devour all, and the children of chaos feed upon your charred ashes. Those who defy the pact... Those who trespass Quelaag's domain... May you feel the depth of our wrath!

    -Ahh, a precious new sacrifice! Forbidden be, these parts. The realm of the creatures of chaos.

    -Go on, go on ahead...

    -Welcome, bringer of meat. The children of chaos are hungry; give yourself to Quelaag's flame!
    more will be on the way, eventually with audio too...


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:03 am

    Anastacia of Astora - There are about ten different samples of her going "mmm", or "ugghh". Some make it sound like her mouth is shut and she's trying to speak, others she sounds like she may be groaning or in pain. There's one of her tongue clicking, etc.

    She doesn't make those sounds in-game, does she? If she doesn't I'm guessing that they had initially planned to put those sounds in whenever you got something like "...", or "no response, she cannot speak". Perhaps it was too dramatic and they figured silence made it a bit more mysterious.

    edit: It's 17 samples of moaning / groaning / trying to talk / injury, not 10. Also there is one spoken word that sounds like "veritas".


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by Shabbalaba on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:23 am

    Awesome dude !

    Do you have a link to that i could download the audio rips from ?? (unorganized is fine)


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:47 am

    Shabbalaba wrote:Awesome dude !

    Do you have a link to that i could download the audio rips from ?? (unorganized is fine)
    PM sent your way. If there's anything like a community FTP I'd be happy to create .zip files for each individual character.

    Be warned, the samples aren't complete lines of dialog, most of them are short phrases. Some characters will have about 3/4ths of their dialog in 'one batch', and then another 3/4ths (with some redundant overlap) in another batch to have everything of theirs. It's quite a mess!

    There are a couple cases where it makes sense - there's one set of Rickert dialog without reverb, and another with, but some characters seem to have a lot of the same samples several times over.

    There's a handful of Japanese samples that got left in there too.
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:54 pm

    There is audio of the Crestfallen Merchant going mad.

    There are 4 samples of stammering and grunting that sound increasingly distressed, followed by a long sample of him telling himself to "think! think!... remember, remember!" He's clearly struggling to not lose his sanity.

    The next sample is of him saying:
    "Remember... count... count, yeah... count!"

    Then:
    "Counts number one... one, two, three, fff... four, fff..ffive, fivesix, seven!",

    Then:
    "Count! Arghh.. Hrmmm!! ... I can't... Hrrgggggggg!!"

    They did create captions for this audio, which can be found in the text dump as:
    ..... Hrrg... ...Rrgggg... ...Rrrrrgggg... ...Hrrrggaaaagghhh... ...think, think...remember...remember...remember...count, count...yeah count...count...one, two, three, four, five, six, seven...argh...hrgggg... Hrrgggggggg!!
    The text dump doesn't say anything about this being unused, but I don't see it in any videos and I haven't seen it before. Is there a way to make him go insane?
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by Shkar on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:43 am

    Well, that proves that hollow-fication isn't a sudden, instant process.


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:27 pm

    According to the text dump, Shiva says this when you attack him:
    Hrg! Mnph! Why, you dirty...! Have you lost it? Turning on us from the very start? You have some guts, to turn on us! Have a look at my sword, for it's the last thing you'll see!
    But in the dialog video on youtube, he only says this:
    Hrg! You have some guts, to turn on us! Have a look at my sword, for it's the last thing you'll see!
    Is this because he was attacked in Blighttown in the video? Will he say the complete "from the very start" line if you attack him in the forest? Or is it unused?
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by Shabbalaba on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:35 pm

    Thanks for the files man ! And good work !


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by Shabbalaba on Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:43 pm

    Ya know i swear i had an npc say the 'lets work together...' dialog in the forest back around december 2011


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by FrEyes on Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:17 pm

    I think I have heard Shiva saying that "from the very start".


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by mr.lucaslion1000 on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:00 pm

    it would make sense with "from the very start" in the forest after all he will appear in the forest when you join the covenant and shouldn't reappear there


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by ublug on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:39 pm

    Hrg! Mnph! Why, you dirty...! Have you lost it?
    I think these are just his responses when punching him.

    Turning on us from the very start? Have a look at my sword, for it's the last thing you'll see!
    This is his response to being attacked in the forest.
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by BLA1NE on Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:56 pm

    I don't remember so well, but I think some of Anastacia's sounds might be used once you've expended all her dialogue lines, after resuscitating her and returning her voice.

    I imagine From decided not to make the Crestfallen Merchant go hollow because he sells consumables. And, pre-patch, he was the only merchant who sold large titanite shards... I wouldn't have minded a good reason to kill him though! He's not very nice.

    And Shiva's storyline seems interesting, but way too similar to the one in Demon's Souls (forget the NPC's name...). It's pretty much the exact same. Maybe he was supposed to give you that sword from the concept art, that he was supposed to have instead of the Murakumo.


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:42 pm

    ublug wrote:
    Hrg! Mnph! Why, you dirty...! Have you lost it?
    I think these are just his responses when punching him.

    Turning on us from the very start? Have a look at my sword, for it's the last thing you'll see!
    This is his response to being attacked in the forest.
    Ah, ok, thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure because they aren't seen in the dialog video. Removed from the first post. happy

    BLA1NE wrote:I don't remember so well, but I think some of Anastacia's sounds might be used once you've expended all her dialogue lines, after resuscitating her and returning her voice.
    ...
    And Shiva's storyline seems interesting, but way too similar to the one in Demon's Souls (forget the NPC's name...). It's pretty much the exact same.
    Ah, I don't have her resuscitated in any of my games. Can someone check that?
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by Rynn on Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:48 am

    did you find a line of Lautrec saying the words "Again" in there anywhere?
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by Eolan on Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:09 am

    Its funny that the crestfallen merchant also uses the number 7 like he cant remember what ng+ hes on happy
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by Malacath on Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:22 pm

    Dude, that's pretty awesome, how did you do that?
    I would've loved to have that Shiva story, it might be similiar to some DeS thing, but you know we XBox players didn't have the pleasure.


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by RaynexFall on Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:49 am

    i had shiva say all of that when i attacked him in blight town, i remember it clearly too, idk if it was a one time thing though because every other time i have never heard him say it...


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:16 pm

    Rynn wrote:did you find a line of Lautrec saying the words "Again" in there anywhere?
    It appears that he has four lines of dialog that include the word "again":
    -Hm, you again? What is it? Our futures are murky. Let's not be too friendly, now. *

    -Have you heard of Trusty Patches? If ever a man has rubbed me up the wrong way, ugh! If he ever comes around again, I swear, I'll have his hide. **

    -Well! You again? Well, look at you. I thought you were wiser, but I thought wrong! Tis a terrible pity. Like a moth flittering towards a flame. You fellows? No? Don't you agree? ***

    -So, here we go again! ****
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    I've listened to all of his samples are those are the only times he says it, which are all normal in-game dialog and are accounted for in the text dump. Is there something unusual you thought you heard?

    Edit: Wait, I'm not sure if you can trigger the third one in-game. From the video, it seems to start right at "Well, look at you", skipping over the "Well! You again?" part. I don't think he says it if you die and try again, because it goes to "So, here we go again...".
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:58 pm

    Ahh, I did find something interesting with Lautrec's dialog. In-game, there is a line where he says:
    By the Lords... Your face... Hmmm... Your humanity is really slipping...
    The text dump reveals another possible way to start the conversation, which is lumped together as:
    By the Lords... Your face... By the Lords... Your voice... Hmmm... Your humanity is really slipping...
    I found the sample of him saying "By the Lords... Your voice..." - 1413 v040010021.wav. I wonder if there is a way to make him react to your "voice" instead of your face somehow?
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:53 am

    Here's more Lautrec stuff I'm not sure about.

    The following lines of dialog are not found in the dialog video, and I'm not sure how they're triggered (or if they're also unused):

    I entreat you. Have pity on this powerless knight. Surely you can imagine the depth of such dejection?
    You won't let me be? Then I have no choice! You will regret this! How dare you insult Lautrec the Embraced! May the Goddess have Mercy upon you.
    Why, you... How far will you come? !...Please, leave me alone...
    What have I done to you? ...Please, I beg of you... Tsk!

    edit: post updated, removed found dialog


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by ublug on Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:51 pm

    You... How dare you come prancing about! I have nothing to say. Be gone from my sight.
    As far as I know this is his first response in Firelink if you talk to him in the prison cell, and then beat the gargoyles without freeing him. You may have to possess the key to free him as well, but I'm not sure.
    And the next time (and onwards) you talk to him he'll only say:
    I have nothing to say. Be gone from my sight.

    In one of my recent playthroughs I attacked him in his cell with a spear, but I don't remember his response to that. Might have just been the same response as usual. I forgot about him and absolved, then got the response above when I talked to him in firelink.
    I now have a character who's close to the endgame, where Lautrec is still in the cage (aggro). I'm not able to unlock his cage, since that option is removed after beating the gargoyles and then leaving the area. I plan on absolving with only Gwyn left, to see if he still kills the firekeeper and goes to anor londo.
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by retro on Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:13 pm

    Thanks ublug! That's exactly right.

    Attacking Lautrec in the cell does get the usual response. The above post was updated to have everything left I'm not sure how to trigger.


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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by TheLolrider on Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:07 pm

    That merchant dialogue is kind of freaky
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    Re: Unused Dialog

    Post by XKnightArtoriasX on Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:58 am

    I wonder if there is a way to make him react to your "voice" instead of your face somehow?

    Maybe by using the voice stones from the DLC?


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