DragonSlayer Spear, is it a viable option?

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    DragonSlayer Spear, is it a viable option?

    Post by DFogify on Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:30 pm

    Well i am working on a faith build that was originally going to be primarily reliant on the darkmoon blade miracle and sunlight blade miracle with dexteriy weapons but after contemplating it for a while i relized that a lot of people do that sort of thing. So my thought was find a build to switch into as i have already invested heavily in faith. I stumbled on a DragonSlayer Spear build and thought it sounded awesome but the AR seems to get a lot of flak from the community.
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    Post by bloodpixel on Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:53 pm

    I heard that it sucks massively, but i'll never know, since I can never get Ornstein's soul.


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    Post by RANT on Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:01 pm

    its not that good in sl 120, i see a lot of them but not as much as hybrids like you mentioned.


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    Post by Carphil on Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:06 pm

    Ive seen in off hand and sometimes in second weapon in right hand to the lightning spear, some even turtle and attack behind Havel's shield


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    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:11 pm

    It can ben good, but like Greatsword of Artorias, requires higher level than 120, and needs a specialised build.

    I've been tempted to mess around with it but you'd need stats of this kinda distribution:

    http://darksouls.itsthatguy.com/?c=Q2xlcmljLDEyNSwzNSwxOSwzMCwxNCw0MCwxMSw4LDUw


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    Post by bloodpixel on Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:43 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:It can ben good, but like Greatsword of Artorias, requires higher level than 120, and needs a specialised build.

    I've been tempted to mess around with it but you'd need stats of this kinda distribution:

    http://darksouls.itsthatguy.com/?c=Q2xlcmljLDEyNSwzNSwxOSwzMCwxNCw0MCwxMSw4LDUw
    I should try that build sometime.
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    Post by nhbdy on Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:35 am

    This actually sounds like a pretty cool way to break the mold a bit, I may just have to try this and if I didn't JUST get my first PvP character up to snuff (he's a moonlight GS build) I'd be all over it
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    Post by JY4answer on Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:06 am

    It was my primary weapon for my first PvP character. Got bored because its too powerful. Longest range in the game, quick moveset, good guard breaking when 2 handed, and can attack behind a sheild. Very powerful if you know what to do with it, and switch between 2handing and using a sheild according to your oppenents weapon switching. Also good to keep distance so that you're in the sweet spot where you can reach them but, still staying out of their reach.

    You need to plan your stats though. You don't really need 50 faith, but 40 end is needed cuz its kinda heavy. Note that dex increases the physcal bonus, and faith the lightning bonus. A sheild is nice to mix between 2handing and turtling, but that'll add to the weight as well.

    But like I said, you can win with this weapon, but its not much fun.
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    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:09 am

    LOL sorry i copied the wrong link silly thats my new faith/dex im using in fight club silly

    this is the one i meant:

    http://darksouls.itsthatguy.com/?c=Q2xlcmljLDEyMCwzMCwxOSwzMCwyNCw0MCwxMSw4LDQw

    but i agree with the heavy thing, if you were using those stats id have RoFaP on always, i have to just to keep health and stamina competitive while having nice attacking stats


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    Post by DFogify on Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:07 am

    Thanks for the input everyone. I didn't plan on using this character as a permanent build just wanted to mess around with faith and be a little bit less like the rest of the faith builds(eg. buff-reliant).
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    Post by nhbdy on Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:10 am

    JY4answer wrote:It was my primary weapon for my first PvP character. Got bored because its too powerful. Longest range in the game, quick moveset, good guard breaking when 2 handed, and can attack behind a sheild. Very powerful if you know what to do with it, and switch between 2handing and using a sheild according to your oppenents weapon switching. Also good to keep distance so that you're in the sweet spot where you can reach them but, still staying out of their reach.

    You need to plan your stats though. You don't really need 50 faith, but 40 end is needed cuz its kinda heavy. Note that dex increases the physcal bonus, and faith the lightning bonus. A sheild is nice to mix between 2handing and turtling, but that'll add to the weight as well.

    But like I said, you can win with this weapon, but its not much fun.

    so you wouldn't recommend it because of it's power level?

    EDIT: the reason I ask is because I have a faith/dex character I'm working on, and I was considering making him a dragonslayer spear character for similar reasons as Dfog, and if it isn't sportsmanlike (like I consider poise-stabbing to be) then I'd be happier taking this character in another direction...
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    Post by JY4answer on Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:51 am

    nhbdy wrote:
    JY4answer wrote:It was my primary weapon for my first PvP character. Got bored because its too powerful. Longest range in the game, quick moveset, good guard breaking when 2 handed, and can attack behind a sheild. Very powerful if you know what to do with it, and switch between 2handing and using a sheild according to your oppenents weapon switching. Also good to keep distance so that you're in the sweet spot where you can reach them but, still staying out of their reach.

    You need to plan your stats though. You don't really need 50 faith, but 40 end is needed cuz its kinda heavy. Note that dex increases the physcal bonus, and faith the lightning bonus. A sheild is nice to mix between 2handing and turtling, but that'll add to the weight as well.

    But like I said, you can win with this weapon, but its not much fun.

    so you wouldn't recommend it because of it's power level?

    EDIT: the reason I ask is because I have a faith/dex character I'm working on, and I was considering making him a dragonslayer spear character for similar reasons as Dfog, and if it isn't sportsmanlike (like I consider poise-stabbing to be) then I'd be happier taking this character in another direction...

    If you're okay with winning with whatever means needed, including using a powerful weapon and annoying the hell out of people, its awesome. If not, do what I did, and switch to a rapier/balder sword/katana and buff it with SLB or DMB. Just as powerful, but becareful of being BSed halfway. And then there's these that circle the pillars for 60 seconds.

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