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    Pvp dex build help

    Post by Saxonberserker on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:58 am

    What to do for this build, I plan on finishing him at around L60i think. At the moment I'm using .
    RH +5 Quelaags and +11 pyro flame
    LH tower kite +10 and a bow also use a +5 fire piece shield
    +8 wanderer hood +9 wanderer coat and + 4 black iron arms and legs.
    Rings are RoFaP and the other is switched around..
    Level 38 chaos +1
    Vit 22
    Att 16
    End 18
    Str 14
    Dex 20
    Res 12
    Int 11
    Fai 8

    I have a laito +5 and sometimes use black cleric coat and hea arms legs shadow, have not played much as dex so not shaw what weapons to upgrade and where to invest my last 22 or so stats. Thanks for any help.



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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by zzombieboy on Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:36 pm

    Whenever you're asking for build advice, you should try to use this this as it's easier for people to look at, and play with your build to give you better advice happy

    Why are you stopping at level 60 by the way? I ask because if you're planning on PvPing in a specific area, you should tailor your equipment/spells to give you an advantage. Unless you want to put your remaining points to get Dex up to 40, stick with elemental weapons. A chaos Katana/Falchion/Shotel would easily out damage your Quelaag's Fury Sword at 20 dex, so if you're not worried about originality go with something like that.

    I would also recommend switching your pyro flame into your left hand, and your Bow into your right. This way you can use pyro and weapons at the same time.

    Without really knowing what your wanting, it's hard to give you advice. If you put your Dex to 40, the Balder Side Sword or the larger rapiers (e.g estoc) are a good choice if you wear the Leo ring which gives you 40% extra damage on thrust weapons and attacks if you hit an opponent while they are mid roll/jump/attack. Any +15 katana would be good as well. I've had a lot of fun with the Silver Knight Spear as well, though be prepared for hatemail silly If you don't want dex at 40, then bump up your endurance and vitality and take one of the elemental weapons I mentioned earlier, and maybe get an extra attunement slot or 2 for some for more pyromancies; Great Chaos Fireball, Fire Whip, Fure Surge, Great Combustion, Fire Tempest are all good choices

    Edit: Increasing dex will also increase your pyromancy casting speed, with 45 dex giving you the fastest speed


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Soul_Reaver on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:29 pm

    Yeah, for sl60 your better off getting base stats for the weapons you want and take them down an elemental path.

    For Sl100 + up your dex to 40/45 for fast casts, and weapon scaling and maYbe throw a buff in there ~30 faith for SLB/DMB.
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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by B.Phanton on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:08 pm

    I'm doing a Dex build too...but I'll not use Pyromace, I'll use Miracles instead...
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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:49 pm

    Are you planning on going to sl120? thats the lvl dex/pyros shine,imo. Cause it allows you to have max casting speed and decent hp/end. Here are my two dex/pyros(both female winking) i went to 125 just cause these are basically my try hard builds. http://tinyurl.com/8ywk9j8 & http://tinyurl.com/7krssf4 now if i ever re did one of these i would probably make it like this http://tinyurl.com/7cyrgr7

    ps: if you use dusks crown, i suggest taking it off if you fight a mage or opponent with a MLGS. It decreases your magic deff by 30%.
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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Saxonberserker on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:35 pm

    Cheers for advise will probably take dex to 40 and finish at around L80 which ive found to be great for pvp.I had become a bit stuck with this build and I had been finding the fury sword a bit underwhelming . So will maybe go with this http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=d2FuZGVyZXIsMzAsMTYsMzAsMTYsNDAsMTIsMTEsOCwzLDI5LDI1LDI5LDI5LDIxLDMxLDE1NCw0Nyw1LDExMyxub3JtYWwsbGlnaHRuaW5nLGNoYW9zLG5vcm1hbCwwLDMzLDM4LDI3LDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDYsd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sd29vZGVu


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:40 pm

    Utterly pointless running a elemental weapon with a dex build...


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:43 pm

    try building from this as a base. should give you fairly nice damage. and a lightning iaito
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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by ithunktwice on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:25 pm

    I'm also trying to run a dex/faith build, but I can't seem to get the stats to work out. this is what I've come up with, but I don't want to have to go up to sl l28. Any tips?


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:31 pm

    drop your dex to 40 those 5 points only provide a marginal increase in your WoG casting time. which if your opponent doesnt see it coming will hit anyway and if they do it wont anyway.
    dropping faith to 30 will also free up some points for you since either 30 or 50 are pretty nice sweet spots silly
    http://tinyurl.com/cvu49oj this is a pretty defensive option
    http://tinyurl.com/d2xu8gs this would be its more offence based counterpart. dropped to dark gauntlets as there are little benefits to 56 poise over 53....


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by ithunktwice on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:36 pm

    I think I'll go for the second option. Thanks! Also I thought the break point was 55, not 53? lol!


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:38 pm

    Nope. breakpoint is 53 silly I run a similarly powered setup Its very nice big grin
    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t3650-resource-threads-to-check-out-for-rookies-and-vets

    this is always a good thread to check. poise is listed on there.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:55 pm

    Am i crazy, or did you switch the title from dex/pyro build to just dex build?
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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by ithunktwice on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:58 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:Am i crazy, or did you switch the title from dex/pyro build to just dex build?
    You're just crazy winking


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Saxonberserker on Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:02 am

    I think I'll take the laito to + 15 and go for the 40 dex and use a light lightning Xbow as backup. Have been playing around with possible builds and with 30 end and vite I could lose the RoFaP freeing up a ring slot. RoFaP becomes a very big cruch to lean on in PvE and PvP. I'm still surprised that the pyro doesn't have a spell buff for weapons as either fire or poison.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Dominikov on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:12 pm

    ithunktwice wrote:I think I'll go for the second option. Thanks! Also I thought the break point was 55, not 53? lol!

    53 is a breakup for the greatsword's normal R1 attack, but after recently talking to WyrmHero I found out that 56 is another breakup for the greatsword's sprinting R1 attack. 56 will make it so you don't fall back on the ground from a sprinting R1.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by ithunktwice on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:33 pm

    Oh wow I had no idea there was another break point for the sprinting attack. Does it matter if the attack is 2h or 1h?


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Dominikov on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:48 pm

    ithunktwice wrote:Oh wow I had no idea there was another break point for the sprinting attack. Does it matter if the attack is 2h or 1h?

    I know for a fact that the 1H greatsword sprinting attack (runs at you and swings the sword 180 degrees in front of him) can be tanked with 56 poise, although I'm not 100% sure about the 2H.

    The 2H sprinting attack might require more poise.

    I'll have to test that! big grin But I HIGHLY recommend getting 56+ because you do not want to get hit by a running R1, it will knock you on the ground and they will try to hit you hard after you recover or better yet, bs you.

    Personally I recommend 60+, but 56+ would suffice.

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    Black Knight Armor
    Havel's Guantlets
    Black Knight Leggings

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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by ithunktwice on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:00 am

    I usually roll with the balder armor, 1 (or 2) piece of havel's, and either the wanderer leggings or knight gloves depending on which piece of havel's I'm wearing. If my poise isn't high enough (at least 76) I throw on the wolf ring and I'm set.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Dominikov on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:12 am

    ithunktwice wrote:I usually roll with the balder armor, 1 (or 2) piece of havel's, and either the wanderer leggings or knight gloves depending on which piece of havel's I'm wearing. If my poise isn't high enough (at least 76) I throw on the wolf ring and I'm set.

    Yeah Wolf Ring can be worth it sometimes. I personally just try to keep my end at a point that I can get 60+ poise through armor. I use the Wolf occasionally, but I prefer trying to save a ring slot. But if it works for you then that's all that matters, as long as you're having fun! silly Maybe we can test your build sometime? xD

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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by ithunktwice on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:15 am

    Sure, my PSN is ithunktwice, same as on the forum. I won't be able to duel for a couple days, but add me and I'll let you know when I can.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Dominikov on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:26 am

    ithunktwice wrote:Sure, my PSN is ithunktwice, same as on the forum. I won't be able to duel for a couple days, but add me and I'll let you know when I can.

    What SL are you planning at stopping at? I have a DEX Build that I need to make on XBL and PSN and it's 120 so I was wondering.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by ithunktwice on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:28 am

    I actually have 2 dex builds, one is a dex/pyro and the other is a dex/faith. The pyro build is 120, and the faith is 125 for hosting.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by Dominikov on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:35 am

    ithunktwice wrote:I actually have 2 dex builds, one is a dex/pyro and the other is a dex/faith. The pyro build is 120, and the faith is 125 for hosting.

    Oh ok, I got a SL 120 Dex/Pyro & then I'm making this new SL 120 Dex Melee. We'll have to set something up.


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    Re: Pvp dex build help

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:04 am

    Well the armor discussion is over but
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