The Mask of the Father, Child, and Mother represent Gwyn, his firstborn, and the firstborn's mother?

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    The Mask of the Father, Child, and Mother represent Gwyn, his firstborn, and the firstborn's mother?

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:42 pm

    Not sure if this idea has been discussed before, but I've gotten the impression that the masks represent Gwyn and his family.

    The Mask of the Father looks nothing like Gywn, you say? Well, that could explained away by the masks and statues of the catacombs being made out of tribute or worship, by beings that don't know exactly what Gwyn looks like. Like depictions of Jesus that assume he was white and European-looking.

    Compare this picture of the Mask with Gywn:
    Mask
    Gwyn

    They're very different looking, as Gwyn looks very unkempt. The Mask of the Father still has long hair, and a mustache and beard, only portrayed in a more stylistic and probably flattering way.

    But that's just my attempt to justify the different appearance, what made me think this is the statues in the catacombs. Someone pointed out that the statues in the catacombs have the faces of the masks, they're just worn down and difficult to notice. The normal statues has the face of the mask of the father, and the statue with the spikes is the mother holding the child. The spikes that stab out are coming out of the eye and mouth holes of the child:
    http://imgur.com/a/Nmaq3

    Who was this family, and what made them worthy of having all these statues made of them. Perhaps it is statues of the gods?

    Several statues of a mother holding her child can be found throughout Lordran, and the speculation is that it is the mother holding Gwyn's firstborn. Is it a coincidence that there's another family that also has statues of a mother holding her child, or is it just a different culture's depiction of the same thing?

    We can also consider the item descriptions of the masks.

    Mask of the Father:
    This mask, belonging to the valiant father,
    slightly raises equipment load.


    Mask of the Mother:
    This mask, belonging to the kindly mother,
    slightly raises HP.


    Mask of the Child:
    This mask, belonging to the naive child,
    slightly raises stamina recovery speed.


    I can understand how Gwyn could be thought of as valiant. The mother we don't know anything about, but given all the statues of her holding her child we can probably assume she was kindly and nurturing. The child? The child could be naive simply because, well, all children are. Or, the naivety could be a serious character flaw that later in the child's life causes him to screw up and be cast out... revoked of his status as a god.


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    Re: The Mask of the Father, Child, and Mother represent Gwyn, his firstborn, and the firstborn's mother?

    Post by User on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:43 pm

    Yes; This was discussed months before.

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    Re: The Mask of the Father, Child, and Mother represent Gwyn, his firstborn, and the firstborn's mother?

    Post by retro on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:47 pm

    Ah, cool!

    edit: Here it is, page 9 of that thread.

    You also noticed that the mask of mother and child share material / texture while the father is different (if that has any significance), and the spikes coming out of the child may have something to do with the death of the mother.

    I'm not sure the 'death' of the mother can be explained by the catcombs statues, there's no way to know that the mother has been impaled. However, the spikes coming from the child's mouth could in some way signify the child being a god of war.
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    Re: The Mask of the Father, Child, and Mother represent Gwyn, his firstborn, and the firstborn's mother?

    Post by Dark Spirit EliteBiker20 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:21 am

    LOL....... I just noticed that the noses on the father, and Gwyn, are very similar and somewhat big. LOL

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    Re: The Mask of the Father, Child, and Mother represent Gwyn, his firstborn, and the firstborn's mother?

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:51 am

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