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    A question for all invaders!

    Post by Reaperfan on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:42 pm

    How do you feel when a person you invades sprints to the boss's fog gate to kick you out of their world instead of fighting you?

    Just curious happy

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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by RANT on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:46 pm

    dont care at all since that's what they were trying to do before i invaded them.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by new deal on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:14 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:dont care at all since that's what they were trying to do before i invaded them.
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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 pm

    same, i did it myself the other day after i realized the invader was going to do nothing but run for mobs i hadnt killed. See ya dude lol
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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 pm

    Like sh!t.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by schultz on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:23 pm

    im just like "another cracked orb wasted..." then i move on lol


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:31 pm

    some times i'll just follow them and watch how they play the game.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by ParasiticEve on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:36 pm

    I turned this game on late last night and I did this very thing. If it were me I wouldn't mind since now humanities and souls are really easy to come by. Unless I were looking forward to just messing someone game up.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by GrEeNgObLiN on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:44 pm

    i feel bad.. im not sucha bad *** searchin bs person.
    i dont chase them


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by mrbeckham87 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:55 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:dont care at all since that's what they were trying to do before i invaded them.


    agreed.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:03 pm

    Sad for scaring them like that.

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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:11 pm

    Irritated because it probably took me 5 minutes to find that match.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:34 pm

    I chase them down. If they can make it before getting killed, they win, that's the law of the jungle for me. If I'm an invader I'm there to kill them, I'm not such a nice person to back off just because my prey doesn't want to fight. If they really can't deal with being killed in a videogame, why are they playing DkS in the first place?


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by BLA1NE on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:00 am

    I'm ambivalent.

    Sometimes it irritates me because I always go out of my way to give the host every advantage. I don't attack first, don't attack with mobs, allow them to heal, don't backstab, etc... Sometimes I'll make my presence known to the host while he's fighting mobs, then I'll let him heal, and he'll run right to the boss door.

    Look Skyward

    All I wanted was to fight, and I might even have been inclined to just let him win depending on how he fought. Of course I know there's no way he can know that, because I can't even imagine the other types of assholes who have invaded him, which is why I'm ambivalent. But seriously, I let him finish off the mobs and let him heal, what more does he need to know I'll give him a good fight?


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by ParasiticEve on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:09 am

    Well, maybe not everyone is playing to fight people online. Yeah you can say he should play offline but not everyone does.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by Ghadis_God on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:37 am

    That's the thing though. If you don't want to get invaded, don't play human. Hollow mode is an option for players who don't want to interact with others. The idea of risk/reward is built into the core of DkS's philosophy, by playing human you accept the risk of invaders in return for the reward of being able to summon help.

    People who play human but don't want to fight others want to have their cake and eat it too, as the expression goes, but DkS is not that kind of game.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by ParasiticEve on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:51 am

    Yes thats true, but regardless it doesn't change a lot of people still will play human and not want to fight other people and actually be playing for co-op. Yes being invaded is a risk when wanting co-op but it doesn't change not everyone wants to deal with being invaded and wants to fight someone. I've done it plenty time in my play so far, I go human for help with Orstein and Smough, someone invades while im trying to summon help. I either D/C or enter fog gate and homeward back. Dark Souls is a big PVP game but not everyone HAS to put up with that aspect of the game.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by RANT on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:03 am

    Ghadis_God wrote:That's the thing though. If you don't want to get invaded, don't play human. Hollow mode is an option for players who don't want to interact with others. The idea of risk/reward is built into the core of DkS's philosophy, by playing human you accept the risk of invaders in return for the reward of being able to summon help.

    People who play human but don't want to fight others want to have their cake and eat it too, as the expression goes, but DkS is not that kind of game.

    while people that dc are annoying if youre invading and they run to the fog door than its cool cause they can do whatever they want since you invaded their world and are there to kill them.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:08 am

    Ones who disconnect are weak, ones who run through the fog gate are all right in my book. I'm playing the game by invading them and they are playing the game by challenging the area boss and sending me back to my world.

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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by Ghadis_God on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:11 am

    Co-op gives you a massive advantage over invaders though. If you really didn't want a fight just bang the invader, as dishonorable as it sounds it's part of the game and I personally don't have a massive gripe with invading 2v1's that aren't farming for souls. This is a game that's supposed to kill you, invading players aren't an instance of PvP stepping on someone's PvE time, DkS blurs those lines like no other game. I consider invasions as much a part of the PvE game as co-op.

    @Rant Exactly. I consider myself part of the environment while invading a PvE player. Not that I act like a mob, but that an unwary host can do whatever he feels is necessary to beat the level. If that means running from an enemy he feels he can't beat, well, everyone does that.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by ParasiticEve on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:17 am

    Yeah ganking is a ton of help but it still doesn't change that people might not want to be bothered with fighting another person. Like I get your point, but if I was playing and im on my last few humanities im not letting someone spoil my game by taking it. Even if I have the advantage in numbers, if I don't want to fight I don't have to and can move on to the boss.

    I've been in that situation before and it sucks.

    And I don't think disconnecting is bad if you don't initiate the fight.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by RANT on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:25 am

    well the people that run to the fog door are the ones that are alone so they think that all youre gonna do is backstab them or so some other cheap tactic to get a win so theyre like f that lol, ganking is another thing though. i like hosting sen's a lot, the stairs in the beginning are perfect against every build there is, i always have my bk shield and crest shield ready for magic and pyro, its so funny making fun of them until they get sloppy and i parry their ***, i have a lot of patience when it comes to that, ive had so many people just crystal out because they run out of spells or just dont wanna risk getting killed which i dont get since they lose nothing lol.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by Ghadis_God on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:27 am

    Why should that person be bothered to fight the boss then, or complete the game? It's a shame there's so much griefing, really, most n00bs consider invaders as cheap @ssholes who they don't stand a chance against, which is 95% true. That's the real reason most people just run away, because they stand much less chance against some bb glitcher than any boss in the game. That does break the PvP/PvE fusion I'm talking about, and it's why any lower level (below 80) invader/GL toon I roll doesn't use the DWGR, havel's, or any elemental weapon.

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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by RANT on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:31 am

    yeah, its all on the community so there's really nothing we can do. thanks to glitches tha have ruined the earlier levels dark souls is not as fun and the earlier level are the most fun in any game imo.


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    Re: A question for all invaders!

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:35 am

    RantFromRant wrote:yeah, its all on the community so there's really nothing we can do. thanks to glitches tha have ruined the earlier levels dark souls is not as fun and the earlier level are the most fun in any game imo.

    I think they're the best designed, that's for sure. I mean anything is better designed than the Tomb of the Giants. I really think FROM dropped the ball there, it's not that it's hard or anything (well, it was my first time through there) but the worst part is that it's just no fun.

    Never have I gone down in that level and had a good time, which I think is what games ought to be for.


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