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    This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:24 am

    ...
    I am playing right now on xbox tonight, I was cooping at the Parish, get summoned and host got invaded. I see the invader aproaching, full havel's with a rapier that turned out to be lightning.
    Now listen to this... He casts Iron Flesh, cause he was already walking with something buffed like power within, so Iron flesh, lightning rapier, gc, full havel's....
    What the f....!!!???
    He is already bb glitching, being all noob griefing and he hasn't even finished the game!!!!!
    No achievement for any of the two endings nor the achievement for getting all the pyromancies!!!!
    What a shame indeed... I sent him a message saying... Seriously???? Even Iron Flesh now????
    He said that he finished the game at sl 5 and came back to kill noobs....
    Obviously not!!! But Wtf!!!!!!!!!
    What is going on with this comunnity?!?!?!
    Really sad...
    Please... If you are new to the game and you are reading this...
    DON'T FOLLOW THIS EXAMPLE!!! You are just ruinning a great experience...
    Soo sad...
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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:55 am

    This isn't uncommon. My advice is to solo as a hollow or play offline to summon NPCs. Or get griefed...


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:24 am

    I was the phantom


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:41 am

    And forget qbout the griefing... The sad part is that they even don't finish the game, and they are already bb glitching...
    I want to believe that if bb glitching is intentional at least FROM would like that people finish the game first before start scewing with it.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:49 am

    If you're going to coop at low levels, expect to get griefed. BB some stuff "just incase", or play offline. It may annoy a lot of players, but people are still doing it. So either come prepared or don't give griefers the opportunity at all.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Gazman0169 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:55 am

    Wouldn't Iron Flesh override Power Within, seeing as that you can only have one personal buff in effect at any one time, just a thought?


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:04 am

    Yes I get you, but I think you are missing my point...
    Damage I don't really want to rely on glitchong to enjoy the game as it should be.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:07 am

    Yes Gaz, actually you just can't have one body buuf qt a time, I think it ran out so he casted Iron Flesh, but he had a reddish aura already (not the obvious BP aura of course so ...


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Gazman0169 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:08 am

    No, I fully get your point, and was merely providing clarity to the whole personal buffs side of things


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:13 am

    That could be the Red Tearstone ring, though why he would wear heavy armor and move slowly with low health is beyond me.

    That probably wasn't his main account, I know I have a few and I haven't beaten the game on all of them. Though I don't grief with any of them.
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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:14 am

    But Gaz, he could have a nuke om his arsenal, the main point is is that this is the result of bb glitching and first griefers by using it.
    I'm 100% sure this guy was terribly griefed and he said to himself:
    "I want to do that"... But he was such a newbie that he just got havel's armor, maybe a +5 pyro glove and a lightning rapier...
    But he hasn't even finished the game!!!!
    That is the point and the saddest part as well.
    I know this is a common issue perhaps, but that is the main problem, that is becoming common and that the advice nowadays is: Play as hollow....


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:16 am

    Many victims become the monsters they fear, I see it all too often in the forest.
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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:20 am

    Well Tolvo, you are right on that, but this one had a big 3 on it meaning he has been a 3 years gold member...
    Anyway, it's sad mate, that we are forcing ourselves to go hollow or offline to play fair...
    There is the dragon glitch as well, see my point?
    Who is really fully enjoying this? Them or Us?
    We are forced to play offline??? Hell no.
    by the way, sorry for the typos, I'm using my phone now.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:24 am

    The people who are killing other people, and the ones who like a challenge.

    Alright, that is pretty odd to have the gold membership and not have beaten the game. He probably got stuck or is in the middle of trying to beat it. Shame on him, can't even finish a single playthrough.
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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:27 am

    "As it should be" is subjective. And you can either glitch gear to fight griefers, or continue to get pooped on by them. Or play offline/hollow/don't coop. You can uphold whatever "standard" you want, but if you're human/cooping at low levels, and you get slammed because you've got some predetermined notion of how the game "should" be played that kept you from preparing yourself for the inevitable griefing, then it's your own damn fault.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:30 am

    While it is his choice, not everyone likes to glitch Damage. I do it, but I hate that I have to do it. I'd rather I didn't at all, but respect his choice.

    Are you still drunk also?
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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:31 am

    Tolvo wrote:The people who are killing other people, and the ones who like a challenge.

    Alright, that is pretty odd to have the gold membership and not have beaten the game. He probably got stuck or is in the middle of trying to beat it. Shame on him, can't even finish a single playthrough.

    That's the point my good Tolvo.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:32 am

    Tolvo wrote:While it is his choice, not everyone likes to glitch Damage. I do it, but I hate that I have to do it. I'd rather I didn't at all, but respect his choice.

    Are you still drunk also?

    Hahaha... Not drunk but almost...


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:35 am

    I meant damage actually, he mentioned in a different thread he was drunk haha.
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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:37 am

    DamageCK wrote:"As it should be" is subjective. And you can either glitch gear to fight griefers, or continue to get pooped on by them. Or play offline/hollow/don't coop. You can uphold whatever "standard" you want, but if you're human/cooping at low levels, and you get slammed because you've got some predetermined notion of how the game "should" be played that kept you from preparing yourself for the inevitable griefing, then it's your own damn fault.

    Shame... because glitching is not the way.
    But... Ok, made your point.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Gazman0169 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:38 am

    Doelker, I really do not understand why you are getting so worked up about this?

    At the end of the day, if this person is doing these things then they are only cheating themselves, as by glitching in this way they are missing out on a large part of what this game has to offer.

    I was griefed heavily when I first started out in this game, but it never once drove me to intentionally glitch or grief in return, nor did it put me off playing the game, not even for a split-second. Sure I get mad from time to time, but I tend to channel my anger and use it to make me a better player. Thankfully, griefers and glitchers are few and far between, and as with most things in this game with a bit of practice and a shed-load of dogged determination you will find that they are a long way off from being unbeatable.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Doelker on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:40 am

    Tolvo wrote:I meant damage actually, he mentioned in a different thread he was drunk haha.

    LOLZ.... Is just that I am waiting to be summoned here for gaping but having a couple of beers in between too lol!


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:40 am

    Have you tried doing any higher level Co-Op by the way? Usually at that point you can deal with the griefers, as well they aren't as bad or common.
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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:41 am

    All I'm saying is that if people arent going to BB glitch based on whatever principle theyre applying to the situation, even though it's available to them and everyone else, don't complain when the inevitable happens. People grief. WE ALL KNOW THAT. It is what it is. You could have glitched gear and been on an even footing, but you chose not to. And hey, that's totally fine with me. If that's your thing, more power to you. But whats the complaining for then? YOU chose to go with beginner's gear. I just don't understand why people who know how prevalent griefing is, decide they're not going to BB based on whatever principle, and then get all indignant about people doing something THAT THEY ALREADY KNEW PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DO. I can't wrap my head around that, guys. I just can't.

    And yeah, I'm still deleting cool, refreshing Budweiser. Haha.


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    Re: This is really sad...

    Post by Tolvo on Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:44 am

    Sometimes people just need to vent Damage, I have my ***** moments, as well you are sort of venting about people venting. Sometimes the threads can get a bit annoying complaining, but they're inevitable as well. He's complaining about a system he's not happy with, which sounds pretty reasonable to do. Just let people get things off their chest, and inform them how you can.

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