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    Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by schultz on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:33 pm

    lol so this is me enjoying mugenmonkey and its awesomeness. lol been playing around with that and i came out with this http://tinyurl.com/7uvd367
    ok maybe its been done before or sumthing but is this a smart idea or should i just go with one rapier? i kinda like to practice parrying with the rapier although im not really good with parrying at all lol.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:37 pm

    I don't think Velka's has any extra crit damage like the other rapiers.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by RANT on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:43 pm

    @cloud i think it has the same crit as estoc cause that thing packs a punch when you riposte even with no hr, over 1k sometimes. anyway heres mine http://tinyurl.com/7x3y4g2


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:52 pm

    I just checked, and it has the regular crit damage. Still, I'd rather switching rings even if it did so I could use a more fancy ring (Like wolf ring and then equipping lighter gear)

    Edit: http://tinyurl.com/7nhf9fb here's my edit on it.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by schultz on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:55 pm

    it already has the dwgr + 77 poise so i dont really need the wolf ring and besides its the same anyway lol
    @rantfromrant, thats an awesome buld man but i wanted to try pyromancies with mine because i have like 2 casters now and i dont really find them effective on PVP because of some reason the HSM keeps going crazy and not following the opponent lol


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:57 pm

    Why would you need that much poise anyway if you have the DWGR? Also I meant to put the demon spear, not ricard's rapier.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by schultz on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:00 am

    i guess that could work! so using the rapier for parrying is not very good idea then?


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by cloudyeki on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:03 am

    It's a bit tricky to parry with rapiers. Doable, but tricky. Also offhand pyromancy comes out at a different angle, and lets you keep a mainhand weapon ready to keep them stunlocked after staggering the target. If you take the demon spear idea, you can stagger someone with a GCF hit, and then poke-lock them while they're in the lava.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by schultz on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:06 am

    thats a neat idea! thanks happy


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by cloudyeki on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:08 am

    Ain't an idea, I'm speaking from forest hunter experience big grin I've killed many a ganks by just catching the host while he flasked and keeping him pinned with my DSS.

    Good luck with this build. I hope it kicks as much *** as it looks like it will.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by schultz on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:09 am

    yeah thanks happy


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by RANT on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:40 am

    tha rapiers have fast parries so if you have tried the small shields like the heater shield you should have the timing right, i parry with my notched whip and sometimes i dual velka's. just go with whatever youre comfortable with. i love my velka's build, you can always change weapons to most of the dex based weapons which is pretty awesome.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by RANT on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:54 am

    cloudyeki wrote:I just checked, and it has the regular crit damage. Still, I'd rather switching rings even if it did so I could use a more fancy ring (Like wolf ring and then equipping lighter gear)

    Edit: http://tinyurl.com/7nhf9fb here's my edit on it.

    i know but there's a hidden crit in all rapiers which is why their riposte do sumuch damage.


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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by skorm on Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:37 am

    I don't think there are any hidden critical bonuses in rapiers at all. The only reason it has such a high critical is due to its optimized damage output (370-400) compared to most critical weapons such as the bandit's knife which has an average dps output of 250-310. Furthermore, add in its moderately high critical rating of 110 makes it produce a far more powerful critical than other weapons. In short, a weapon with a decent dps critical "multiplier" will do far much more damage than a weapon with low dps output , but on the otherhand has a large critical rating/multiplier. I mean 1.1 (crit ratings) multiplier by 300-400 will make a larger difference, than a weapon with 1.47 multiplier with 260-300 damage. Although you don't have to take my word for it and your answer may be even be 100% correct. This is just the way I interpret critical ratings.

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    Re: Velkas afternoon BBQ

    Post by Wisp on Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:04 am

    That's just not true.

    Estoc has standard 100 crit rating, Does the same damage on a reposte as an ultra-greatsword.

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