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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:36 am

    i'm almost done my strength build and have been two handing a +14 great machete and i'm loving it! However, i'm wondering if it'd be worth it to get my srength to 40 just to swing it in one hand, should i just leave my strength at 30 and go with the zwei? Could you help me compare them?
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:40 am

    demon great machete all the way!!!! if youre going for sl l120 go witht the machete, its awesome.
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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:48 am

    Lol alright, should i get my strength to 40 though?
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:53 am

    is it a str//fai build? i have one that has 40 str and im making one that has 30 str right now, its not that much of a difference, its up to you if you wann try parrying. the build i used on the latest post of the fight club is my machete build check it out and see, im optimizing it right now, im gonna have only 30 str.
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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:56 am

    yeah its a str/faith build, my strength is at 30 too, so i should just leave it? put the next 20 stats into vitality and endurance?
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:01 pm

    if youre using the machete youre gonna need 40 end, that things eats at yor end like theres no tomorrow, i have 40 end, vit and use the ring of favor. i think i only used the machete twice, i was trying out the great club in the video.
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    Post by kiwi_commander Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:08 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:demon great machete all the way!!!! if youre going for sl l120 go witht the machete, its awesome.

    Screw the Machete... my LVL120 Build is going dragon bone fist all the way... SHORYUKEN!
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:13 pm

    kiwi_commander wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:demon great machete all the way!!!! if youre going for sl l120 go witht the machete, its awesome.

    Screw the Machete... my LVL120 Build is going dragon bone fist all the way... SHORYUKEN!

    i love the dragon fists but i gotta say, they are not the most effective in pvp.
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    Post by kiwi_commander Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:18 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:
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    RantFromRant wrote:demon great machete all the way!!!! if youre going for sl l120 go witht the machete, its awesome.

    Screw the Machete... my LVL120 Build is going dragon bone fist all the way... SHORYUKEN!

    i love the dragon fists but i gotta say, they are not the most effective in pvp.

    Yeah, they need help... a lot of it so you can always add some pyromancy to help even things out. HADOKEN!
    I think the only good thing about the Dragon Bone Fist is that it's enchantable.
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:21 pm

    i jus tested my +15 machete on the darkwraiths on ng, with 40 str two handing it the damage is 553 and with 30 str 539. your choice now.
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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:30 pm

    @Rant
    Wow! okay i'm definately staying at 30 strength then lol

    btw my endurance is actually at 42 so i can have at least 22 poise and still be under 50%, also, i'm not gonna wear the rofap, i wanna keep that slot open so i can have the wolf or cloranthy ring
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:34 pm

    Dj-B-Man-Jr wrote:@Rant
    Wow! okay i'm definately staying at 30 strength then lol

    btw my endurance is actually at 42 so i can have at least 22 poise and still be under 50%, also, i'm not gonna wear the rofap, i wanna keep that slot open so i can have the wolf or cloranthy ring

    i wear the grass crest, if youre gonna two hand the machete just use the grass shield and you wont need the cloranthy ring.
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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:54 pm

    i'm always using the grass crest, but i have mask of child & cloranthy for maximum stamina regen! silly
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    Post by ChizFreak Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:16 pm

    Get 34 strength and use Grant 2 handed.
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:25 pm

    igf this is for pvp, the grant is not that good, youre better off with the great club and use slb.
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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:48 pm

    I've tried that great club/slb combo...holy *** its awesome!! and if my opponent starts turtling...my lightning shotel fixes that.. str builds ftw Hurrah
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:01 pm

    Dj-B-Man-Jr wrote:I've tried that great club/slb combo...holy *** its awesome!! and if my opponent starts turtling...my lightning shotel fixes that.. str builds ftw Demon Great machete vs zweihander 558843162

    i know, everyone here has dex hybrids and never str hybrids, i really wated to like dex hybrids but couldnt, shame. i gotta say dex hybrids are like the bkga of builds.
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    Post by justwant2play Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:41 pm

    The only weapon that is worth upgrading to the max at 15+ is the Demon Greataxe. It has an "S" for strength at max.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:01 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XahQ5rLoOtg this is the proper way to uses a dragon bone fist, and isn't it the ONLY enchantable boss weapon?
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:45 pm

    str hybrids wrecked havoc in ds, it was probably just from trying to balance dex @ str hybrids so str hybrids wouldn't be almost universally better
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:47 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:str hybrids wrecked havoc in ds, it was probably just from trying to balance dex @ str hybrids so str hybrids wouldn't be almost universally better

    really? i seem to remember everyone using katanas and stunlocking you to death, every time i saw one i switched to my mirdan hammer, the meat cleaver is still my fave weapon.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:54 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:
    Forum Pirate wrote:str hybrids wrecked havoc in ds, it was probably just from trying to balance dex @ str hybrids so str hybrids wouldn't be almost universally better

    really? i seem to remember everyone using katanas and stunlocking you to death, every time i saw one i switched to my mirdan hammer, the meat cleaver is still my fave weapon.

    that build isnt a hybrid, usually had just enough mp to cast darkblade or whatever it was, the one the caster lost health to cast. and not once did my greataxe fail to kill them. tank hit one and trade murder.
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:23 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:
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    Forum Pirate wrote:str hybrids wrecked havoc in ds, it was probably just from trying to balance dex @ str hybrids so str hybrids wouldn't be almost universally better

    really? i seem to remember everyone using katanas and stunlocking you to death, every time i saw one i switched to my mirdan hammer, the meat cleaver is still my fave weapon.

    that build isnt a hybrid, usually had just enough mp to cast darkblade or whatever it was, the one the caster lost health to cast. and not once did my greataxe fail to kill them. tank hit one and trade murder.

    i miss the great axe slam, the large and great club has that now, theyre pretty awesome so im not complaining. i still hate dex char though but i want to like them, i find them boring.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:38 pm

    fair enough. i'm on a faith hybrid are my favorite (in both games)so i've got a str/faith club user and a dex/faith iaito user. back on topic though, imo its more about preference than straight damage or straight speed. my iaito is slower and shorter than the bss but i like it better so i'm better with it. so if you're really digging one or the other after some practice, use it. don't decide untill you've felt the moveset in combat though. thats a quick easy way to ruin builds winking uhh btw whats slb?
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    Post by RANT Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:47 pm

    my first character was my all around build so tested all the weapons until i decided which ones i really liked and made my builds around them. i made my demon machete faith build and now im making one build around the great club and machete.

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