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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:20 am

    I am getting the PC version also xD


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by RagingDragon_69 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:19 pm

    Personally I think people should use what they like for any reason they like. I use the masks on a couple of my builds and I actually don't mind the look of the MoM. The rest are fn ugly but they are too useful to just not use. I also use the BKGA on a couple builds, because I like it and it's moveset. Grouping people together and saying they are all cheap because they are MoM/Giant/Flippers is judging a book by its cover. This is a game where actions speak louder than words imo.

    It's no different than how people feel about DWGR. Some people dislike it on a principle basis only. But it is realisticly one of the most OP pieces in the game. You can stack poise, heavy weapons or even both with just that one piece. You are essentially handicapping a build by not using it. Now I am not saying everyone should use it, I am just saying that everyone should keep an open mind, and allow people to use the gear they want.

    This is a place where opinons and tolerance should not just be preached about, but it should be practised by its members as well.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Reaperfan on Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:06 pm

    RagingDragon_69 wrote:This is a place where opinons and tolerance should not just be preached about, but it should be practised by its members as well.

    Spoken like a true brony winking


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:53 pm

    Raging spam that post in every thread where there's DWGR/mask/OP whatever talk. Well said +1.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:58 pm

    It just makes me sigh when I have to fight a guy with over 2K heath who bs fishes with a Lightning clay and the Hornet ring. It's just a terrible fight to have to fight, and it's way too common.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:00 pm

    The feeling you get when you win that fight is beyond human comprehension.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Tolvo on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:02 pm

    I'd almost equate it to going to a fight, and finding out all your enemy will do is go for your testicles. Yeah, that's an efficient way to win I guess. At the same time come on, throw a punch.
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by zzombieboy on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:11 pm

    It's infuriating because it's utterly unnecessary. You don't need 2500 vit and the giants armour etc if ALL you're going to do is BS fish with hornets. It just boggles my mind. I, or any other half decent player on here could do that all day naked, with starting vit. Then it's the bow (because they think it was a good fight). That's the real salt in the wound. They actually think they fought well.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Ghadis_God on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:19 pm

    Yeah I really hate the people who bow after killing you like that. Even worse are the people who bow to me after a gank, it just makes me think "How dare you bow to me, at least have some shame"


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by RagingDragon_69 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:57 pm

    The problem is the users not the gear, like is said before. "Actions speak louder than words."

    And thanks Wyrm, I actually figured I would be down repped so a +1 is a bonus big grin

    But I do agree with getures after a gank or a cheap move, now that drives me crazy......


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by mrbeckham87 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:03 pm

    I get taken advantage of too often because I'm usually the first to bow and then get chained bsed. But I love pvp and when I do get into a good dual (thanks to raging for teaching me the ropes) makes it all worth it. Even if I got my *** handed to me. I think a person should wear what they want according to the build they are using. And if anyone wants a respectable dual, add me PSN Mr_beckham87


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:11 pm

    @RagingDragon_69
    I totally agree with your post saying you have to practice what you preach, which is why i dont use dwgr,heavy armor, or mom mask anymore. I do have to disagree that it is a problem with the players. People will always pick the best stuff, which is why the best should be a variety of things. All these players would turn into complete garbage(and possibly just stop playing the game) if the dwgr was taken away. Mom mask alone isnt that bad, but i have to argue that dwgr is by far the most broken item in the game.
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:35 pm

    I practice what I preach. No elemental heavy weapons, no BK weapons in PvP, no full heavy sets with flip, no masks, no hornet ring...

    I think saying min/maxing is bad then making a mask flipping giant with 2300 HP and elemental claymore is just a silly thing to do :|


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by mrbeckham87 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:42 pm

    I love my fire and lightning claymores. And MoM only gives me 1500 hp. I am trying my black iron armor and Thief mask out today. Looks good and decent poise so, meet in the burg if you wanna fight!


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:45 pm

    haha - serious, I have the definition of Min/Maxing for a SL12 build. Gankers I invade have a distinct hate for me with my naked arse showing xD


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:48 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/84o9eqc

    No DWGR and the mask is optional, either way it will out damage, out manuver and have more hp than most competitive builds.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:51 pm

    Thats actually surprising you could do that. Still it wouldnt be possible to have that along with 12 casts of wrath ext. like most of them have at the moment.
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Forum Pirate on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:57 pm

    So? Could easily scrub the shield for a crossbow and use the msgs. Now it can out range you as well. It could also drop 1 str point for 1 dex and menu swap into an elemental pike, which our ranges wrath. *I think*


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by RagingDragon_69 on Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:58 pm

    @FruitPunchNinja

    As I said in my post DWGR is an OP piece.

    RagingDragon_69 wrote:It's no different than how people feel about DWGR. Some people dislike it on a principle basis only. But it is realisticly one of the most OP pieces in the game. You can stack poise, heavy weapons or even both with just that one piece. You are essentially handicapping a build by not using it. Now I am not saying everyone should use it, I am just saying that everyone should keep an open mind, and allow people to use the gear they want.

    But the people are ultimately the issue not the DWGR. Everyone could use the DWGR and we could have a great dueling communtiy that is respectful to one another, but that comes down to the players not the gear they use. Calling someone out based on their gear is just short of racism imo.

    And is anyone else tired of all the DWGR complaint threads. DWGR is no different than BS, currently it is part of the game mechanics. Until that changes all the can do is accept it. If you want to use it then do so, if you don't want to use it then don't.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by roanispe on Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:30 pm

    I am tired of the threads, yes, but it is important to talk about the issue. By examining what the ring does in depth, and how people feel about it, then solutions can, if required, be made. This doesn't mean a massive Internet petition, or something silly like that. However, if enough people had enough dissatisfaction they can form their own dueling group. That way, they can operate without it, or enforce rules to make sure it is only used with people under 25% weight. DWGR is indeed like backstabs, it is a mechanic; it is a mechanic that enough people can choose to ignore, and have fun together with. These threads must be allowed so that till enough people band together on the issue so that it can remain in the focus of the community. Not everyone will go searching the backlog, PM participants, and take a super-human level of initiative.

    These threads should remain respectful; no one here designed the game, and no one deserves any blame for something deemed 'Overpowered'. Pointing out what people think is wrong with the game, that a helmet, ring, or weapon being unbalanced will allow people with similar viewpoints to band together to create a better playing experience. The creation of a better time shouldn't be at the expense of having to throw vitriolic remarks at each other, however, and I urge that aggressive remarks not be directed at another forum member, but the piece of equipment itself.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:39 pm

    +1 for that roan


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by User on Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:40 pm

    To be fair, roan, I find your comics to be offensive. I think we should make a petition to either see more or none at all.
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

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    Fortunate for me, I break my vasts anyways.

    So, let me start the petition for ya :bas:
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:55 pm

    Hornet ring and DWGR shouldn't be in the game. silly

    I love the way people don't complain much about hornet ring when it's a way of devoting your playstyle to abusing a broken PvP mechanic..


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