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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:10 pm

    go into profile section at top, and then there's a bit that says signature, put it in there then you have to turn your signature on in the options/preferences.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:33 pm

    the masks are fine as is but they are way to easy to obtain, the weakest boss in the game gives you one of the most power ful helms.... my solution would be that pinwheel instead of fighting you summons a red phantom and binds it to his service with a mask, if the invader wins they get one mask (random) if the host wins, they get the right of kindling, thats it.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:38 pm

    Like Old-Monk did? It gave him a buffer due to him being so easy silly


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by callipygias on Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:41 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:Sadly calli if there's something that makes a game easier, it will always get exploited..

    Then again you need to think of the reasons why this stigmatised gear are some of your favourites?
    The Black and Silver Knight weapons are among the coolest looking, to my eye. Especially the BK Halberd and SK Sword. I have zero interest in Giant's or any of the masks, but only because I don't like the way they look.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:19 pm

    actually reim bringing up the crown of dusk is a good example of why the masks are unbalanced. The dusk crown is still usefull and obviously used a lot.

    Dusk Crown:Give 20% magic boost/30% loss of magic defense, doesnt have any defense as a helm.
    Masks:+15% hp,Stamina regen,+15% equip load, doesnt have any defense as a helm

    Why not have each mask have a slight downside? Maybe a downside that has to do with the other masks. Father adds equip load but reduces stamina regen. Mom adds hp, but reduces equip load. Child mask.....is child mask really op.....no
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Extertionist on Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:33 pm

    I personally have nothing against giants but when you see countless noobs wearing MOM it really grinds my gears.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by RANT on Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:37 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:actually reim bringing up the crown of dusk is a good example of why the masks are unbalanced. The dusk crown is still usefull and obviously used a lot.

    Dusk Crown:Give 20% magic boost/30% loss of magic defense, doesnt have any defense as a helm.
    Masks:+15% hp,Stamina regen,+15% equip load, doesnt have any defense as a helm

    Why not have each mask have a slight downside? Maybe a downside that has to do with the other masks. Father adds equip load but reduces stamina regen. Mom adds hp, but reduces equip load. Child mask.....is child mask really op.....no

    i've actually suggested the same thing a while ago and i got neg repped lol i guess people really like those masks lol


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:38 pm

    The masks already have a downside.. You lose any kind of style or self respect, I think that loss is worth more than stats. lol!


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by RANT on Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:54 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:The masks already have a downside.. You lose any kind of style or self respect, I think that loss is worth more than stats. lol!

    most of the peope that use them dont care about style of respect though


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Fotitudo on Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:20 pm

    Hell this combination is the standart "i ruin your day" build.

    Mask of Father/Mother/Child, mostly F/M
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    And what really pisses me off, my GF ask what i play, i answer Dark Souls of course. And then she said:
    "Isn´t this the funny game, where knights jump like acrobats and stab them in the back?"

    And she´s right.....
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by cloudyeki on Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:30 pm

    :shock: What a way to describe it.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:52 pm

    Its sad how accurate that is....
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:05 pm

    Fotitudo wrote:
    "Isn´t this the funny game, where knights jump like acrobats and stab them in the back?"

    And she´s right.....

    Lol, that's depressingly accurate.. Why do so many people have to resort to the easy option? Look Skyward


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Carphil on Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:13 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:
    Fotitudo wrote:
    "Isn´t this the funny game, where knights jump like acrobats and stab them in the back?"

    And she´s right.....

    Lol, that's depressingly accurate.. Why do so many people have to resort to the easy option? Look Skyward

    haha exactly!

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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:28 pm

    Fruit - I like that idea.

    Serious and rant - I use the MoM often in most of my builds. Do I lose any respect? Prayer silly


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:35 pm

    Ive also used mom on a few builds, it certainly ups my win ratio. I just refuse to wear the masks or giants,black iron, or havels in combination, and dwgr. I really like the wolf+rofap combo, if dwgr was not in the game that would be the most popular combo for sure. So many things they could have just left out of the game that would have made it better....

    I am very curious as to what the creator of dark souls opinions are on these balancing/item/weapon "problems" a majority of the community complain about. I would love to see a video where he commentates while invading the kiln, hearing his reaction to getting ganked by 3 giants+moms with BKGAs and MLGSs would make my day.
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:32 pm

    reim0027 wrote:Fruit - I like that idea.

    Serious and rant - I use the MoM often in most of my builds. Do I lose any respect? Prayer silly

    You definitely lose in the style stakes, I'm sure you also feel a little dirty using it knowing the kinds of others who use it lol!


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by La0bouchere on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:33 pm

    Hating on MoM/DWGR/Giants armor for not being original makes as much sense as hating on people that Use the Claymore over Bastard Sword or BSS over broadsword. So yeah, anyone that uses a best-in-class weapon is a cheap, unoriginal noob.

    Personally, I dislike people that use **** armor in place of Giants/MoM mask because they die so easy. I like to play against players that are trying their hardest to win, not people that want to look cool and gimp themselves doing so.

    In the end, its just the same ol "its good so it should be banned" mindset that's so common in the souls communities.
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by reim0027 on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:35 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:Fruit - I like that idea.

    Serious and rant - I use the MoM often in most of my builds. Do I lose any respect? Prayer silly

    You definitely lose in the style stakes, I'm sure you also feel a little dirty using it knowing the kinds of others who use it lol!
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by RANT on Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:49 pm

    lol


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Carphil on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:02 pm

    La0bouchere wrote:Hating on MoM/DWGR/Giants armor for not being original makes as much sense as hating on people that Use the Claymore over Bastard Sword or BSS over broadsword. So yeah, anyone that uses a best-in-class weapon is a cheap, unoriginal noob.

    Personally, I dislike people that use **** armor in place of Giants/MoM mask because they die so easy. I like to play against players that are trying their hardest to win, not people that want to look cool and gimp themselves doing so.

    In the end, its just the same ol "its good so it should be banned" mindset that's so common in the souls communities.

    So, for you, everyone must wear Giants armor and mask of mother to survive longer? Well, first, take a look at this video

    Second, what if instead of Giants, everyone starts using Painting guardian set? Who shows up in PVP wearing Giant would not be taken as a good player and would be disrespected by everyone else?


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by Serious_Much on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:07 pm

    reim0027 wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:
    reim0027 wrote:Fruit - I like that idea.

    Serious and rant - I use the MoM often in most of my builds. Do I lose any respect? Prayer silly

    You definitely lose in the style stakes, I'm sure you also feel a little dirty using it knowing the kinds of others who use it lol!
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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:09 pm

    You know I was goingto sya at 120 you cant have a full giants MoM build with a +15 buffed weapon, but then I decided to make sure of it - http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=4830371952427813. I am crying on the inside to how easy the DWGR + RoFaP + MoM makes this build. Still it looks ugly so Ill never use it.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by DamageCK on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:09 pm

    Some people consider it scrub gear, but I don't think it is. I think weapon choice is a more accurate indicator of "scrubiness". All's fair though. It's super common, but for good reason.

    However, when I run into a player with a really weird gear loadout, seems like the majority of the time they're the bomb. Nothing like getting completely reamed by a random to put you back in touch with reality.


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    Re: why do people get so mad?

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:10 pm

    La0bouchere wrote:Hating on MoM/DWGR/Giants armor for not being original makes as much sense as hating on people that Use the Claymore over Bastard Sword or BSS over broadsword. So yeah, anyone that uses a best-in-class weapon is a cheap, unoriginal noob.

    Personally, I dislike people that use **** armor in place of Giants/MoM mask because they die so easy. I like to play against players that are trying their hardest to win, not people that want to look cool and gimp themselves doing so.

    In the end, its just the same ol "its good so it should be banned" mindset that's so common in the souls communities.

    I dont think its that personal for most of us. It has nothing to do with the person using the armor for me, its just the fact that its unbalanced. The reason the arguments always sound so weird is because its multiple things in combination that are unbalanced. If you look at just one of the items we are discussing then you cant really argue its THAT op, but its when you combine them that they become the top tier(by far). Those things are DWGR(the most unbalanced item in the game imo)Pinwheel Masks, and heavy armor. I dont mind people picking the best stuff, but there should be more variety of what "the best" is. Its boring as all hell when everyone has the same build(pretty much), and is the reason i think a lot of use are loosing interest in pvp.

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