Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

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    Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by Dark Souls PRO on Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:03 am

    Here's a little theory of mine (sorry if I'm not allowed to do this or
    there's already a topic about it). Sometime ago ENB found a link between
    Havel the Rock and Havel the Bishop from Christian religion, this set
    me off on a quest and the Xanthous King being one of my most favourite
    NPC's and considering there's like nothing on him I decided to look
    through some Biblical stories about anything to do with Jeremiah. I
    found a link between King Jeremiah and Jeremiah the Prophet, there's to
    much that I could write down but keep these in your mind; Why was
    Jeremiah banished? What connections does he have with the Prophet
    Jeremiah? I whent through a bunch of stuff to figure this out but most
    of you guys can go on wikipedia and read the Prophet Jeremiah page for
    summarised information. And considering his head wrap is considered to be the Dark Souls version of the Demon's Souls monk head wrap, if you think of his head gear to be something religious, like he's a monk if you think of it from the Demon's Souls head wrap then it matches not too badly with some stuff about prophet Jeremiah.
    Post any suggestions new, links you find, contradictions or anything because I want to know more about this crazy NPC!


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:05 am

    DoughGuy wrote:
    Xanthous King Jeremiah (Thanks to Skare for
    this one):
    At first glance, the word "Xanthous" suggests a possible place
    or origin for our King. However, the word Xanthous means "Yellow" or
    "Yellowish" which strongly suggests he was well known for his unique
    armor set. The armor is coincidentally also said to be of unknown
    origin. The armor's color is said to be so bright it "still stings the
    eyes." Parts as described as tattered. The word "still" and the
    tattered nature suggest he's old (and is described as legendary). The
    brightness of the armor reflect a likely desire to divert attention. By
    stinging eyes it is intended for his audience(s) to look away. The
    wrappings suggest he might be ashamed of his appearance, by wrapping his
    face away from the world. Both of these pieces suggest a possible
    deformity. Acidic has posted much about him being an egghead which
    could explain the wrappings. Acidic......you could be right. However,
    an alternative theory presents itself upon further examination.
    Jeremiah's name is known and, as mentioned above, is legendary. So,
    while WE do not know where he came from, presumably others do.
    Particularly as he is know for being an exile. Surely those who exiled
    him know where he came from. The armor's origin is specifically stated
    to be unknown, which may imply it was made after his exile. Perhaps our
    Bullfrog of a King is ashamed of his exile, and hopes to hide his face
    and attract attention away from his former self. Adding to this is the
    wrappings statement that it is "clearly far too big." A possible nod to
    an enlarged head but also a suggestion that it is an intended variation
    from the expectedsize (normal head) potentially as yet another
    distractor. Evidence to
    this occurs when we wear the wrappings without an egghead and they perform identically to the King's use.

    A problem with this is that he is known as the Xanthous King, indicating he likely came to be
    King
    after receiving the armor. However, his name may reflect a later claim
    that he made, as his legendary status is tied to his being an "exile."
    It appears his legend is tied to something after the exile. Like
    Conan before him, did he go on to conquer another land? Was he called
    this out of irony? Like my covenant namesake Little John.

    Jeremiah's
    weapon implies two possible character traits. The use of a whip,
    primarily good for unarmored opponents suggests a likely use for
    punishment purposes or "motivational" tactics, like the guys in the
    Temple of Doom, getting the kids to work harder. The thorns/barbs etc.
    on
    the whip add that he was particularly cruel. The enemies of the
    painted world are bloated and toxic and use fire. The easy connection
    is to the eggheads by Quelana. I would imagine that a chaos connections
    exists, however, there are notable differences. The eggheads, also
    develop
    bloated backs and spawn parasites when killed. The bloated warriors
    are afflicted with toxin rather than parasites and grow only from the
    head. Priscilla describes the inhabitants as "peaceful" in the Painted
    World, yet we find them not so nice to us. Perhaps Jeremiah
    and his
    whip have "motivated" them out of their peaceful ways. His use of
    chaos may be a trick he learned from them.....or....perhaps one he
    brought with him. Did King Jeremiah seek to become the King of the
    Painted World? He appears near cages which presumably bring new
    inhabitants.
    Is he there to meet them with open whip, to draft them into service?
    We come upon a hiding bloated hollow. Cowering, perhaps, he is as
    peaceful as Priscilla suggests. Priscilla also practices the peaceful
    ways, meaning she believes it to be a peaceful land. Is this an escapee
    who has gotten away from the tyranny of the Yellow King? His final
    gift to us suggests that their pyromancy is a learned gift that can be
    passed along, not an inherent one from the bloat itself. Did the Yellow
    King bring fire to the Painted World, a land where all evidence (doll,
    terrain, weather, Priscilla) indicates cold reigns supreme?

    Finally,
    Jeremiah's corpse is unique in it's position. He sits, behind
    Priscilla, waiting in eternity. Why is he there? The position suggests
    his end was not a violent one, meaning Priscilla did not kill him. If
    we can extend our experience, he could have walked off the edge and left
    at any time. Yet he didn't. I have two theories, one of which I
    believe has been stated. He sought to make Priscilla his queen and his
    love went unrequited. Similarly, he may have intended to challenge her
    for power and could not, but was spared to wait out his last days. A
    combination of the two theories is possible too (did not want to harm
    her after he met her). They both appear to be outcasts and he may have
    felt great empathy toward her. This could also be extended into the
    reason he seeks to create an army in the Painted World, to protect
    her.
    From - http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t3151-there-s-more-to-them


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by skarekrow13 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:14 am

    You guys really need to set a character limit on my posts. Jebus. DS Pro....You're absolutely allowed to post theories etc. and I'll look up your prophet to see if anything sticks out. Most of what I said was after he was exiled so there's an obvious gap in his story according to me. Also, every word of what I said is speculation based on evidence as I see it. Others might see something different which is encouraged.

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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by Dark Souls PRO on Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:15 am

    Ahh, thanks. Do I have to delete this thread now and move my theory over to there?


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:17 am

    You can keep the thread open. i wasnt saying to move I was just showing you where I got it from with a shameless self plug silly. But be aware i will steal anything we find here to put in the thread silly (I will give you full credit though)


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by ublug on Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:28 pm

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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by skarekrow13 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:36 pm

    And now I own another book on my Kindle.....

    Read the Wikipedia article and sounds like I ranted fairly well (thank God, don't want to look the fool)

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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by Dark Souls PRO on Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:48 pm

    Never heard of this before! I might read the full play itself since Lovecraft apparently got some idea's from it and who knows might give me some good info on Jeremiah.


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by Buggy Virus on Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:04 pm

    I personally think he is actually of the chaos covenant.

    This is why he uses chaos pyromancy almost exclusively, and the head rap is actually a clothe wrapping around an egg head, which is why a bit bloody.


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by skarekrow13 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:42 am

    Reading the book of short stories now. Second story describes the King In Yellow as "wrapped in the fantastic colours of his tattered mantle"

    The book so far has alluded to his sign causing insanity and fanatical devotion. Like a spreading curse. The first story implies the play of his name is heretical. The book is mostly banned


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by User on Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:53 am

    ... Sigh.
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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by samster628 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:30 am

    i dont know about anyone else but the non hostile bloted head reminda me of the non hostile piscas in seaths archives.


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by LordRevan on Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:40 am

    samster628 wrote:i dont know about anyone else but the non hostile bloted head reminda me of the non hostile piscas in seaths archives.

    I don't know about anyone else, but this seems like Necromancy! :o


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    Re: Xanthous King, Jeremiah theory.

    Post by samster628 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:45 am

    ???

    how so?


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