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    WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:08 am

    I was PvPing in the burg when i was invaded by a flipping giant, he had a talisman and a rapier out. He started spamming WoG, but he did the "glitch" that cancels spells, half the time he would just cancel his WoG. I couldn’t get close since he would use WoG if i got close and i couldn’t roll BS him since he would cancel his WoG and turn around, casting another WoG that hit me when i came out of the roll. So i was rolling around in the "arena" trying to no get hit. He beat me, then he put his rss on the ground and i summoned him, he beat me again. I continued summoning him and trying different tactics but i couldn’t beat him, after the ~10 try he disappeared.

    Does anyone know how you could beat someone like this?
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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by swordiris on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:14 am

    Didn't know you could cancel spells but I believe you.

    Was this a modder/hacker? Those people are tough to beat.

    Your best bet would be pyromancy or sorcery if you have either.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:15 am

    Fire Tempest, special r2s etc etc...

    Canceling spells isn't new, but this is interesting.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:17 am

    swordiris wrote:Didn't know you could cancel spells but I believe you.

    Was this a modder/hacker? Those people are tough to beat.

    Your best bet would be pyromancy or sorcery if you have either.

    You can cancel spells it’s kind of a glitch though.
    He wasn’t a modder/hacker.
    I don’t have any pyros/spells on this toon. And he would probably just cast WoG while i am casting them though, or just BS me.
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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Dark Souls PRO on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:18 am

    I would keep my distance, Pyromancies should do the trick unless he rolls away from them. If the Pyromancies don't work try using the one of the dragon weapons, the heavy attacks tend to be poise breakers and you can use them from a distance.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by cloudyeki on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:19 am

    BS-buffer zone+poise = unstoppable fire tempest.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:20 am

    cloudyeki wrote:Fire Tempest, special r2s etc etc...

    Canceling spells isn't new, but this is interesting.

    Most special r2s are slow, and he could dodge them. Then he would just wait for me to use them again so he could WoG me while i use them.

    Fun fact, you can dead angle with WoG.

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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:21 am

    cloudyeki wrote:BS-buffer zone+poise = unstoppable fire tempest.

    Poise + dragon = imposibility silly
    That’s kind of my own fault though silly
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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by swordiris on Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:26 am

    You could always try outsmarting him and force him off a ledge if you have miracles too.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:27 am

    Spear turtle with a Crest shield.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Rynn on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:30 am

    Use quicker weapons and hit him before he hits you, then roll away.
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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:34 am

    Edit...

    Spear turtle with Crest shield AND Leo ring.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Katakato on Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:11 am

    DamageCK wrote:Edit...

    Spear turtle with Crest shield AND Leo ring.

    If you want to cheap your way to victory this is the way to do it.

    Otherwise, use the Crest shield & try to anticipate or guess when he is going to actually cast WoG instead of canceling it. Fight Unlocked pref with a fast weapon so you can still roll out if he starts casting. WoG is really easy to dodge / BS but if you just stand there & fish 4 it you can easily fall to a WoG cancel.

    I have a Dex / Faith build & canceling WoG can fail quite easily but i found out that if you have Emit Force you can cancel that much easy-er than WoG (it looks the same when canceling) & than switch to WoG & cast it. Nothing really helpful for you but just a tip i learned big grin


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:27 am

    If the guy is going to do nothing but cast/fake cast wrath, then I feel completely fine with spear turtling.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Katakato on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:20 am

    DamageCK wrote:If the guy is going to do nothing but cast/fake cast wrath, then I feel completely fine with spear turtling.

    It takes skill to successfully execute fake casting & i don't mean those that pattern their fakes like 1 fake, 2 fake, 3 fake....cast !

    Faking spells & swinging your weapon to a degree that becomes unpredictable, successful in hitting your opponent & 100% accurate with faking is really something.

    Spear turtling is not, but if he is ONLY faking / casting WoG without doing anything else than bye all means Crest/Spear away.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:34 am

    I got the impression he was ONLY using wrath.

    And actually, wrath has one of the smallest cancel windows of all the spells. I realize it takes skill, I'm not arguing that. The point is that if the other guy isn't going to give you any room to do anything other than try to counter his wrath spam, then you need to use this counter or something equally effective to try and edge out a win.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:36 am

    use a bow, its quicker then his wog, and even if he cancels youll get a hit keep your distance and manually aim for his head for insta stagger then switch to weapon and get one swipe, before moving away,


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:41 am

    Really, Billy? Manual aiming a bow for headshots against a moving target? Hahaha.

    Get on that PVR and show us how it's done.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:49 am

    if they are about to cast wog you use the old cod quick scope, pretty easy once you figure out where teh reticle will appear


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:16 am

    Naturally this will need to be in a montage. Dark Souls Bow Quickscope Montage. You ever get that vid from earlier edited?


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:20 am

    yeah i did, but i removed it as it was abit jumpy im still fine tuning my pc, im buying a new laptop eitha today or 2moro so ill be using that, since this old piece o junk isnt quite specccy enough


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:33 am

    All right. Who did you fight in the footie?


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:36 am

    daveamerican and unforeseenone


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:46 am

    Well get that shiz up, holmes.


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    Re: WoG spammer v2?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:30 am

    @Damage. I tried turtling. He deadangels you with WoG by turning around before he casts

    @Rynn. I tried that too. He is too unpredictable with the WoGs, sometimes he cancels and sometimes he doesn’t. He also kept his distance.

    He may have been a WoG spammer but he was the best i have ever seen. he must a practiced a lot. If only he put that much dedication into something esle sad

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