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Percent, Percent, Percent!!!!
Dark Spirit EliteBiker20- Obsessed
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Percent, Percent, Percent!!!!
Not to post multiple topics right in a row, but can someone explain the level percentages for summoning and invading. I still get confused with them and its a pain in the but when me and my friend cant play together because none of us know how far apart we need to be level-wise.
OOOOOOOOOOPS!!!! I posted this in the wrong section........ how do I fix that
OOOOOOOOOOPS!!!! I posted this in the wrong section........ how do I fix that
WhatDoesThePendantDo?- Duke's Archivist
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It's usually 10% above or below the summoner's level, give or take a few levels. Some of the co-op focused covenants like the SunBros give their members more leeway with the summonings.
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that helps a little, but what about for invading, say with the red soap stone? also can it be 10% of each others level and you meet in the middle?
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First question: Yes, RSS doesn't care about SL range. You can fight with pretty much anyone it.
2nd: Fairly certain that that will not work for you.
2nd: Fairly certain that that will not work for you.
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Re: Percent, Percent, Percent!!!!
I hear summoning is
+/- 10%SL
+/-10
I hear RSS has no restrictions right? Or is it the same as WSS?
Red orb is -10% SL to infinite up.
Blue orb is like 20% down, 10% up.
+/- 10%SL
+/-10
I hear RSS has no restrictions right? Or is it the same as WSS?
Red orb is -10% SL to infinite up.
Blue orb is like 20% down, 10% up.
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Re: Percent, Percent, Percent!!!!
Co-op +- (10 + 10%) of your level
Invading and RSS as low as Your SL - (10+10%) or as high as can be.
DMs as high up and dpends on the hosts sin how far they can invade down.
Forest no level restrictions.
Invading and RSS as low as Your SL - (10+10%) or as high as can be.
DMs as high up and dpends on the hosts sin how far they can invade down.
Forest no level restrictions.
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DoughGuy wrote:Co-op +- (10 + 10%) of your level
Invading and RSS as low as Your SL - (10+10%) or as high as can be.
DMs as high up and dpends on the hosts sin how far they can invade down.
Forest no level restrictions.
This ^^ Except I thought it was 10+15% at least with WSS:
"The client’s level must fall within approximately 10 + 15% (since the 1.05 patch, tested with 78 and 90/88) (above or below) of the host’s level."
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Hmmm, I've always seen it said 10%. Was that off the wiki?
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http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Online
That page^^
If you look at the pages for RSS or Darkwraith etc I know the 10%'s there are pre-patch information, because I edited some of them to confirm the downwards invading but I didn't test how many levels so I didn't change the 10% that was there from before
That page^^
If you look at the pages for RSS or Darkwraith etc I know the 10%'s there are pre-patch information, because I edited some of them to confirm the downwards invading but I didn't test how many levels so I didn't change the 10% that was there from before
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Ok well I havent tested it, but we might need to do our own just to confirm that.
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Yeah I agree, although I'm pretty sure it's right for WSS but I don't know for red.
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I swear im invisible when I say helpful things :|
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No because I am saying different things, I saw yours I'm just saying I think it's different. But I'm not sure so testing is best as always.
Such as Blue orb is dependent on Sin downwards not 20% as you said.
Such as Blue orb is dependent on Sin downwards not 20% as you said.
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One problem you guys can't forget is how the game groups you with other players. The game actively attempts to connect you with people as close to your level as possible, and you can only be connected to so many people at once. So it's entirely possible to be within SL range and still not see the sign you're looking for because you're on the upper or lower end and your Target has a lot of people at their SL around them.
Me and Jovias have experienced this issue before with our S&O cosplays. He was 80 and I was 87 and we struggled to hook up with RSS, yet now that we are the exact same SL we summon each other with relative ease.
Me and Jovias have experienced this issue before with our S&O cosplays. He was 80 and I was 87 and we struggled to hook up with RSS, yet now that we are the exact same SL we summon each other with relative ease.
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This is why its so rare to se a extremely low level RSS sign or invade an extrmemly high level person. The game tries to get yo uwith balanced people first.Federally wrote:One problem you guys can't forget is how the game groups you with other players. The game actively attempts to connect you with people as close to your level as possible, and you can only be connected to so many people at once. So it's entirely possible to be within SL range and still not see the sign you're looking for because you're on the upper or lower end and your Target has a lot of people at their SL around them.
Me and Jovias have experienced this issue before with our S&O cosplays. He was 80 and I was 87 and we struggled to hook up with RSS, yet now that we are the exact same SL we summon each other with relative ease.
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DoughGuy wrote:This is why its so rare to se a extremely low level RSS sign or invade an extrmemly high level person. The game tries to get yo uwith balanced people first.Federally wrote:One problem you guys can't forget is how the game groups you with other players. The game actively attempts to connect you with people as close to your level as possible, and you can only be connected to so many people at once. So it's entirely possible to be within SL range and still not see the sign you're looking for because you're on the upper or lower end and your Target has a lot of people at their SL around them.
Me and Jovias have experienced this issue before with our S&O cosplays. He was 80 and I was 87 and we struggled to hook up with RSS, yet now that we are the exact same SL we summon each other with relative ease.
Yes that's true but it must be noted it even can prevent you from easily connected with people in the typucal coop range if you're in a high traffic area.
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I usually calculate summoning with WSS with +- 15% and it works
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Yarxov wrote:I hear summoning is
+/- 10%SL
+/-10
I hear RSS has no restrictions right? Or is it the same as WSS?
Red orb is -10% SL to infinite up.
Blue orb is like 20% down, 10% up.
I have to disagree on the blue orb. I have been invaded by lvl 320 when being on lvl 120 char, so it seems there is no down limit of blue orb.
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Juutas wrote:Yarxov wrote:I hear summoning is
+/- 10%SL
+/-10
I hear RSS has no restrictions right? Or is it the same as WSS?
Red orb is -10% SL to infinite up.
Blue orb is like 20% down, 10% up.
I have to disagree on the blue orb. I have been invaded by lvl 320 when being on lvl 120 char, so it seems there is no down limit of blue orb.
It's supposed to be based on sin I think. The more sin you have the higher level darkmoons can invade you. I forgot exactly how many levels per sin, but someones said it somewhere in a topic like this.
I always calculate WSS and RSS on 10 + 15%(down for RSS, both for WSS) and it has always worked for me. Although i've never purposely tried to do it on the edge of that range, but i'm sure ive done it more than 10 +10%
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The down limit is based on sin. So that toon you were using must have had at least 200 sin.Juutas wrote:Yarxov wrote:I hear summoning is
+/- 10%SL
+/-10
I hear RSS has no restrictions right? Or is it the same as WSS?
Red orb is -10% SL to infinite up.
Blue orb is like 20% down, 10% up.
I have to disagree on the blue orb. I have been invaded by lvl 320 when being on lvl 120 char, so it seems there is no down limit of blue orb.
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DoughGuy wrote:The down limit is based on sin. So that toon you were using must have had at least 200 sin.Juutas wrote:Yarxov wrote:I hear summoning is
+/- 10%SL
+/-10
I hear RSS has no restrictions right? Or is it the same as WSS?
Red orb is -10% SL to infinite up.
Blue orb is like 20% down, 10% up.
I have to disagree on the blue orb. I have been invaded by lvl 320 when being on lvl 120 char, so it seems there is no down limit of blue orb.
I have never have been that high on BoG. I have been on top-100 but never in a top-10 or even top-50. After match I had with the dude I had funny feeling since his char didn't have any weakness that I could point out and I had like a million souls from killing him, so I messaged him and asked his lvl and he told it was 320. I see no reason why he would've lied either.
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If you were in the top 100 thats easily 200 sin. The ton ten all have above 4000.
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He's Xbox
Just checked and 99th person on xbox = 199 sin
Just checked and 99th person on xbox = 199 sin
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Which, sine he may have lost to a DM at some point, entirely reasonable.
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Oh I know I was just saying that at the moment above 100rank is above 200 sin currently. However it wouldn't of been awhile ago. So it just depends when that fight was.
But since he said hes been around top 100ish before very likely that guy was basically the max that could invade him at the time.
But since he said hes been around top 100ish before very likely that guy was basically the max that could invade him at the time.
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