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    Post by jjshowal on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:03 pm

    I usually either get raped or I just run away whenever I invade myself into a gangbang, simply because I'm terrible at bsing and it seems everyone else is a master at it, but last night I invaded in the kiln and came across a 3 v. 1 i thought about bowing but they were clearly looking for the quick chain bs kill. I was able to luckily roll away and spring toward the first bridge to hook at least two of them out (they had already cleared out the knights). They of course came chasing after me, I switched from my experimental fire balder side sword +10, to my +14 great scythe for extra reach and luckily had enough time to buff it with some gp resin.

    The first ******** came at me with a lightning zweihander (really original). I was able to dodge two strikes and slash away at him. Once he was gone the next guy came at me with what else? a bkga and of course the host stood back from afar spamming avelyn at me (cheap little *****), I am able to knock the second guy off after he tries to dodge my R2 scythe attack. Feeling like a badass now, i switch back to my balder and the little ****** is running away then turns back and casts homing crystal soul mass, i play footsie for a while with him then i see an opening and am able to successfully pull off my first-ever pivot bs to finish him and end up taking 250000 souls. I usually get dominated by gangbangers and most 1v1, but I came across these three morons cheaply farming and things worked out. Never felt more awesome playing a video game!


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    Re: Demolished my first 3 v. 1 gangbangers

    Post by Carphil on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:10 pm

    This is the most awesome achievment anyone can get in a Dark Souls career


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    Post by aceluby on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:12 pm

    Campers in kiln are slime, nice job.


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    Post by Dj-B-Man-Jr on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:19 pm

    You sir, are a hero Bow
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    Post by jjshowal on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:21 pm

    well the thing is I am absolutely terrible at PvP, I never got good at dark souls, and since I can't do a proper bs. I would say I win maybe 1/5 matches haha. Shows how lame those guys were.


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    Post by Pharaun on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:22 pm

    Awesome job man!


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    Post by Disaster84 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:04 pm

    Great job man!

    I love the pvp in Dark Souls / Demon's Souls. It's the only game nowadays that can give me an adrenaline rush from every match I have.


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    Post by Glutebrah on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:12 pm

    whats more impressive, winning a 3v1.. or beating S&O first try, first play through no help.


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    Post by strangejoy on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:16 pm

    Well done, sir. The kiln campers are the absolute lowest form of life in Dark Souls.


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    Post by strangejoy on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:18 pm

    Glutebrah wrote:whats more impressive, winning a 3v1.. or beating S&O first try, first play through no help.

    Beating S&O. But beating campers is a public service, unlike S&O. You get to be awesome and feel like you're cleaning up the online trash.
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    Post by jjshowal on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:20 pm

    Beating S & O on the first playthrough solo for sure. Any team of 3 campers with any level of skill should be able to take out most invaders.


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    Post by berkut on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:23 pm

    Congratulations jjshowal happy. Always feels good when you manage to pull something like that off.


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    Post by Ignus-Dej on Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:44 pm

    Hail jjshowal! There should be a psn-trophy you can get if you win a 3vs1 battle against farmers.
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    Post by JY4answer on Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:02 pm

    Come join the club! Also, there are plenty of threads on the forums with tips to deal with farmers. Let's give these 12yr-olds a hard time and cleanse the PvP arenas.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:56 pm

    beat them with your fists (or caestus) and they shall rage quit:D


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    Post by lorenzo110 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:38 am

    Ok people you might want to settle down and take a hard look at what you guys are saying. First let me just say I have played this game through about 7 to 8 times now. I have platinum and have 710 sl. Plus I also have 778 million souls currently. I am a sun bro. I also use to invade like crazy before I finally choose to be a sun bro. You might want to say why do people farm others at the kiln and at the forest. Well all my buddies on my list always used to send me messages about joining up and invading noobies in the forest, anor londo, the kiln, and every other damn place in the game. They had fun beating up on noobs that were lessed skilled and prepared for a strong and experianced invader. It used to be funny watching them turn around and run when you start to appear before them. We all know this....you see this on most youtube videos. A guy invading new and lower players, or even those near their level but lacking in total skill. Screwing up their games and pissing people off. Well what ends up happening is those people start to gain some experiance, yup believe it or not they get a little better and they get with their pals on their buddy lists and say something to the effect, "Lets get back at those ******* invaders that used to grief us. You know the ones that had higher end weapons then us, better armor then us, and stronger spell casting then us. Matter of fact lets get even with all those people that take pleasure in invading those with lesser skill then they and make their day and game time a **** experaince." See I believe that the fault lies on both sides because both ends are griefing on each other. Thats the wonderful nature of this game. The hunters are the farmers and the farmers are the hunters. Nothing used to piss me off more then seeing three people in front of me invading, but then I thought about the time I invaded some poor dudes game who had no skill what so ever or should not have been fighting me at all. I thought about how they felt and how angry that must have made them. And then I realized after seeing alot of people I know griefing griefers as sport. That was when I decided to help out those less skilled to face off against friends that I knew who were taking advantage of their less prepared or experainced opponents. Most of my buddies send me hate mail now telling me why am I helping those cheap *** noobies for, that they would be dead if I wasn't there helping them. So I proudly proclaim I'm a hunter one that has no dog in this fight because honestly from my prospective both sides grief. I know some of you are going to disagree and that is your peragotive and your opinion. But I played this game well over 2000 hrs and I can honestly tell you I am only telling you the truth. You need proof look at most pvp youtube videos on this game. Those true veterans can see the skill level of both invader and summoner to determine that most of the time if not always one is far superior then the other. And you know without a doubt that they should not have been fighting against less skilled players and griefing on them then putting it out for everyone to see. Yeah your a big guy invading three less skill people and killing them then recording it for everyone to see, or yeah you guys are really bad *** standing there waiting for some dude to invade that will have no chance at all. I am sure that if all players take a good and hard look at themselves they will see how they have participated on this behavour at one time or another. I am not exempt from this at all, nor do I consider myself superior then others. So again before you start calling others griefers take a hard look at yourself and remember, what you do in this game always comes back to haunt you or others of like mind. Just play the game and try to stop labeling people. If you loose against three people just move on. And those new people if you get invaded by a guy bouncing around in full havel gear while your wearing a measely ninja suit and get your butt handed to you do not get to pissed about it. Just move on and either play off line or learn from the experaince. And to all the griefers on both sides of this game I say to continue doing what your doing....it makes the game that much more funny and fun, and a hell of a lot more challenging. Plus I want to reach a billion souls soon. Just my two cents on the subject....dont hate the messanger hate the game lol. And love it.
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    Post by JY4answer on Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:54 am

    As a reply to lorenzo:

    I'm not sure about other's, but my frowns go to those that aren't progressing in the game, or invade others games, or even do any damage to other players. That's part of the game.

    My frowns go to those that go to a common, unofficially-decided duelling spot (Kiln/forest), knowing that its a duelling spot, summon phantoms and camp. For whatever reason, I don't care. Maybe they've been ganked before. Maybe they think its fun. Maybe they just want to win. But that's not what the game was made to do. It was made for players to be challenged while progressing thru the already hard game, not for them to get help, stand still at a spawn point and wack at those that hope for a duel. Most farmers even touch red-signs to cast TWoP and bash with their BKGAs. That's not what the game is supposed to be.

    Its true that labelling players may not be fair. But one can't help it when they expect to bow and have a good fair duel, but spawn and see 3 BKGAs and someone casting TWoP while still in the spawn animation. Its also true that everyone may have done it before. I'll admit I did it once. But I lost interest after killing 2 invaders. The fact that you have done it before doesn't mean you should still do it or be okay with others doing so.
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    lorenzo110 wrote:Ok people you might want to settle down and take a hard look at what you guys are saying. First let me just say I have played this game through about 7 to 8 times now. I have platinum and have 710 sl. Plus I also have 778 million souls currently. I am a sun bro. I also use to invade like crazy before I finally choose to be a sun bro. You might want to say why do people farm others at the kiln and at the forest. Well all my buddies on my list always used to send me messages about joining up and invading noobies in the forest, anor londo, the kiln, and every other damn place in the game. They had fun beating up on noobs that were lessed skilled and prepared for a strong and experianced invader. It used to be funny watching them turn around and run when you start to appear before them. We all know this....you see this on most youtube videos. A guy invading new and lower players, or even those near their level but lacking in total skill. Screwing up their games and pissing people off. Well what ends up happening is those people start to gain some experiance, yup believe it or not they get a little better and they get with their pals on their buddy lists and say something to the effect, "Lets get back at those ******* invaders that used to grief us. You know the ones that had higher end weapons then us, better armor then us, and stronger spell casting then us. Matter of fact lets get even with all those people that take pleasure in invading those with lesser skill then they and make their day and game time a **** experaince." See I believe that the fault lies on both sides because both ends are griefing on each other. Thats the wonderful nature of this game. The hunters are the farmers and the farmers are the hunters. Nothing used to piss me off more then seeing three people in front of me invading, but then I thought about the time I invaded some poor dudes game who had no skill what so ever or should not have been fighting me at all. I thought about how they felt and how angry that must have made them. And then I realized after seeing alot of people I know griefing griefers as sport. That was when I decided to help out those less skilled to face off against friends that I knew who were taking advantage of their less prepared or experainced opponents. Most of my buddies send me hate mail now telling me why am I helping those cheap *** noobies for, that they would be dead if I wasn't there helping them. So I proudly proclaim I'm a hunter one that has no dog in this fight because honestly from my prospective both sides grief. I know some of you are going to disagree and that is your peragotive and your opinion. But I played this game well over 2000 hrs and I can honestly tell you I am only telling you the truth. You need proof look at most pvp youtube videos on this game. Those true veterans can see the skill level of both invader and summoner to determine that most of the time if not always one is far superior then the other. And you know without a doubt that they should not have been fighting against less skilled players and griefing on them then putting it out for everyone to see. Yeah your a big guy invading three less skill people and killing them then recording it for everyone to see, or yeah you guys are really bad *** standing there waiting for some dude to invade that will have no chance at all. I am sure that if all players take a good and hard look at themselves they will see how they have participated on this behavour at one time or another. I am not exempt from this at all, nor do I consider myself superior then others. So again before you start calling others griefers take a hard look at yourself and remember, what you do in this game always comes back to haunt you or others of like mind. Just play the game and try to stop labeling people. If you loose against three people just move on. And those new people if you get invaded by a guy bouncing around in full havel gear while your wearing a measely ninja suit and get your butt handed to you do not get to pissed about it. Just move on and either play off line or learn from the experaince. And to all the griefers on both sides of this game I say to continue doing what your doing....it makes the game that much more funny and fun, and a hell of a lot more challenging. Plus I want to reach a billion souls soon. Just my two cents on the subject....dont hate the messanger hate the game lol. And love it.

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    Post by lorenzo110 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:50 am

    To JY4.
    As you say those are unofficial rules that you state. There are many that believe the only rules in this game are those that the actual creators of this gave have stipulated and allow. Not players. Those are player chosen stipulated rules that you talk about and as you state are unofficial. Which will not garner much weight to those that only see themselves bound by the rules of only those the manufacturer has created. When you restrict your own game play that is a choice you have chosen. Not one that is chosen for others to follow. The beauty of this game is that you get to play the way you want to play, as long as they are allowed in the game creators design. Even after playing this game all this time I still run into players at 710 that had no idea of the self player regulated rules at the kiln. Some did not even know there were any type of ediquete to follow in game play. If 3 BKGAs and TWoP casting is allowed in this Dark souls world then as far as I'm concerned it is legal play and fair game. I may not like it, which honestly I don't, but hell I don't make the rules. The game creator did. When you begin to self regulate yourself by implicitly applying rules on yourself during game play remember you place yourself and those you help in harm and at a disadvantage or advantage against you. Again as stated before I have no dog in this fight and I do not care if someone wants to follow these so called unofficial official rules. That is on them. Think of it this way JY4. You choose to play the game that you feel is honorable and more liken to you. That is a choice you are granted but to be mad and angry or upset because others do not follow those said unofficial rules is ignorance. Players rules are those that the game creator has stipulated. Not the players. If people want to stay at sl 120 that is their choice. If they want to hunt lesser skilled players there then that is their choice. That is no different then 3 beating up on said player during an invade session when he invades and finds himself against higher level players. What is allowed is allowed. You may not like and I may not like it but you have to accept it because it falls into the perameters of the game creators rules. Not ours. If I had created the game it would be slightly different only because of the experiances I have had playing this amazing and frustrating game. But lets not kid ourselves JY4, we follow the rules they way we want too, its crazy to think others should do the same nor would I want others to either. Two wrongs don't make it right, only the game rules do, and we have no say on that my friend. I too wish others would progress in the game and play up to 710 sl. They would see a more even and fair playing field. As well as challenging one. Because your character is maxed out and you have to rely on your wits and experaince, as well as armor and weapon knowledge to survive. Lower levels get hit with wrath at two blasts and are dead. You can survive a little longer against wrath up here. But others see a benefit to staying at 120 which really doesn't suite my game style. I prefer to play the game within the game creators perameters. If its legal to use I will use it. If its possible to do I will do it, the only objective is to survive as long as you can. I'm sure your style is much more different then mine. But as I have said before you go ahead and play the game the way you want too, and I encourage others to do the same as well. But I would hope that others would not lessen it with labels simply because they felt it was a dishonest way or dishonorable way to play. Becuase in the end you will see that at one time or another you fall into the same label you put others in. We have all griefed at one time or another and still do, only some see it more honorable in their way then what others may see. In the end we all grief. How can one say that beating up on lesser skilled players in the lower levels is not griefing while invading? And three beating up on one is? In my eyes they are no different. And it has been in my experaince that one creates the other mind set. Period. Just my opin and again I'm sure others feel different and I respect their opin, but also respect mine. And lets just play the game.....

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    Sorry Lex. My bad. LOL
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    Post by JY4answer on Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:21 am

    Its true that duelling is not official and people don't have to follow it. Its also true that we shouldn't enforce our rules on to others. But not following others rules is one thing, and exploiting such rules another. True, hosts can summon 2 phantoms and sit at the Kiln all day and all we can do is try to beat them. But that doesn't mean we should be okay with it and encourage them to do whatever they like, as you did in your fist post.

    I'm not telling them to stop farming. All I've ever been doing was express my feelings towards them, and share it. I won't tell them to stop. Winning a 3on1 fight is great. However some people are just asking for it. They camp, they lose, and they send hatemail. Some send hatemail for a BS, some send hatemail for lag. I ignore these. All of them. But it doesn't mean it makes my day better.

    Sometimes its not about rules, but more about ethics. You can do whatever you want, but others can dislike it and express themselves. Labelling greifers and anti greifers are sometimes over-generalising. But when you see 3 players you know they're farmers. The game doesn't and can't prevent these from happening, but it doesn't mean you should exploit it and ruin others' game experience.

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    Post by lorenzo110 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:17 am

    JY4 how is that any different then those who grief by not leveling and beating up on less skilled players. You cant call out one without calling out the others. Thats what I am saying. You seem to miss that point entirely there.
    I guess in your view there is nothing wrong with high skilled invaders not leveling and beating up on lower less skilled players then videoing it and putting it on youtube saying look at me how great I am. How is that any different then those camping? You speak of ethics but do not discourage that behavour while you condemn the other.
    Can you explain how that is any different? That type of behavour is reprehensible. To post childish video on the internet saying look at me how great I am. I don't level up and I grief on noobies and show how easy it is for me to beat 3 noobies up because I got more skill and they don't. That attitude is no different then those that decide they are tired and getting raped by the skill player and want to get even with them buy inviting their buddies to join in on a good ol fashion gang bang. Are both these types of behavour wrong? Or right? Or one is better then the other? Whose to judge. You? Me? Others?
    Look we may not like this type of behavour buddy but its a fact that it infects this game. All I am saying is play the game the way you choose to play. If you want to label people then that is on you but remember others may not like your game style either and you may get ripped for it.
    Just let your game style speak for yourself and maybe it might inspire others to play with that same attitude instead of griefing on each other. But to have a signature saying We are hunters We hunt the farmers. Well lets just say to me that says it all about how you view fairness in this game. I guess we just both see the dark souls world in different light. But hey just all I'm saying is you play the game the way you want to and I will play the game I want. And we leave all these childish labels out of the game. They are not needed because everyone can be placed in that catagory when you get right down to it. Because in the end we are all hunter and farmers. One world one love LOL. Just enjoy it while you can. Just my two cents.
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    Post by JY4answer on Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:24 am

    Calm down man. Your sentences may not end with a ! but the words say something. I don't like farmers for 2 reasons.

    Here's reason 1. By not leveling, invaders still fight others one on one. The skills will be different because they've played more. Is it not fair to be better at the game because you played more? Camping with 3 bros involves no skill. Just exploiting the game mechanics that's supposed to help you get thru the game, but instead killing invaders easily. Winning with skill and winning with a gang is different.

    Number 2. I'm not talking about random invasions. Never was. I'm talking about the Kiln. I would agree that greifing elsewhere is bad, but that isn't my point. I understand you don't think that duelling rules should be assumed, but again it doesn't mean we should exploit it.

    So yeah. I don't approve greifing, if that's what you're saying. I don't like those videos of invasions killing beginners any more than you do. I just think ganging up at a spot most go to for duels is ethically worse.
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    Re: Demolished my first 3 v. 1 gangbangers

    Post by strangejoy on Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:34 am

    @Lorenzo

    Sorry buddy, I don't buy it. Every time someone engages in sleazy behavior they try to justify their actions through moral relativism. Players who intentionally team up against a single player make the game worse for everyone else by ruining known dueling spots. If the three players are questing and just so happen to be invaded, fine. But if they're camping, they're being cheap and ruining the experience for everyone else. No amount of "but what that other guy is doing is also bad," or "let everyone play the way they want" is going to change that.

    If you're camping in the kiln, stop it. That's all.


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