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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by Unforseen on Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:52 am

    The rules you have for this covenant are just awful in my opinion and i feel that you aren't going to achieve much in terms of being "good". You are stating that you approve of your members to join up and gank other members, which is also what the Brotherhood Of the Blade is out to put an end to. I strongly suggest that you rethink your methods and change some of your "rules" so that you can steer away from being labeled "Corrupted" in our standards.
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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by swordiris on Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:44 am

    We only gank those in the book of the guilty.

    Eye for an Eye

    Members are forbidden to attack darkmoons. We care not of the opinions of others. If people hate us in our noble quest to eliminate sinners so be it.

    We are martyrs for the cause, the anti-heros I suppose. Undead who walk down the path of darkness get the afterlife in Lordran they deserve.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:46 am

    Ganking those in the book ... in the forest ... this will not end well.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by Unforseen on Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:50 am

    Seems more a noble-less quest to me. You are essentially ganking the average pvper therefore if you continue with such, you are going to become a target of the Brotherhood.
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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by swordiris on Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:54 am

    Basically when someone is killed by a DM they lose one point in the book of the guilty.

    When we use cheap tactics we are purging sin. Thus ganking guilty is looked at as right as it leads to our goal of purging sin

    One might ask about the indictment rule, honestly if they beat us they earned the indict.

    Only thing considered dishonerable is hacking, that is too far. Also our members don't have to indict hackers


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:56 am

    How do DMs gank the guilty?


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by swordiris on Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:05 am

    We encourage our members to invade as DM to purge however it is also acceptable to gank forest while in own realm.

    This discourages invaders from commiting sin (our second goal is to strike fear in the hearts of sinners)

    But you are right You can't gank while invading, I misspoke


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by Unforseen on Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:56 am

    swordiris wrote:We encourage our members to invade as DM to purge however it is also acceptable to gank forest while in own realm.

    This discourages invaders from commiting sin (our second goal is to strike fear in the hearts of sinners)

    But you are right You can't gank while invading, I misspoke

    You are worse then they are by displaying such acts of cheapness and lack of skill. By ganking you aren't striking fear into anyone, you're only making them want to resort to cheap methods to fight people in the forest, even if it's a 1v1. People like yourself cause others to have to resort to cheap tactics just to combat you.
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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by swordiris on Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:34 am

    Honestly I've never ganked before. I'm acually usually the victim of ganking.

    Maybe you are right about ganking. It isn't creative enough.

    Besides the more time spent ganking is less time spent invading.

    I will stop encouraging but I will not punish covenant members who do. DM invasions are what counts anyway.

    Edit ranks 3 + 4 3v1s as humans are fine but spawn camping is discouraged


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by Unforseen on Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:40 am

    You should inform your members that ganking is bad and also that you should do some kind of punishment for doing so if they do not heed the warning.
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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by swordiris on Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:52 am

    A ganker that proves he can only gank is not worthy of the Covenant.

    We are cheap jerks, however we will be skilled in the art of being cheap.

    Since ganking requires little to no skill along with hacks I have decided to ban the two.

    Hacking= kick and gankers will never rank.

    whether something is a 3v1 (which is acceptable) or a gank is debatable, I would need officer confirmation.

    However, everything else goes.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by LordRevan on Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:10 am

    swordiris wrote:A ganker that proves he can only gank is not worthy of the Covenant.

    We are cheap jerks, however we will be skilled in the art of being cheap.

    Since ganking requires little to no skill along with hacks I have decided to ban the two.

    Hacking= kick and gankers will never rank.

    whether something is a 3v1 (which is acceptable) or a gank is debatable, I would need officer confirmation.

    However, everything else goes.

    :shock:

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    How is a 3 vs 1 acceptable?

    Being a 'cheap' covenant is fine, not very honourable. But acceptable. You can be skilled at being cheap by getting really good at Chain BS or TWoP usage something like that.

    But a 3 vs 1 is a gank, not skilled cheapness.

    Your covenant is about Dark Moons anyway. Try to keep it that way, the combat and ranks should be based on Darkmoon invasions. The forest should have nothing to do with it.

    When you are hosting in the forest you are not purging sinners you are becoming one yourself. Only as a Darkmoon can you purge ones' sin.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:26 am

    Essentially you are ganking the noble forest hunters who are just protecting their land from the gankers... Every match my FH goes into that is a 1v2 or more he gets indicted. Soooo.... FH Wrath inbound if you have the nerves to invade us, just kidding. We're the Men in Tights. Do you really want to battle us? We have Blinken on our side and he is damn dangerous with that sword of his! Take a look at that stone pillar.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:09 am

    Hey!hey hey ... they can gank in the forest as long as when we beat them they have to come back here and tell us all about it ! winking


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:15 am

    true, true - actually. Feel free to have fun in the forest! Oops, I hope that's not an arrow protruding from your arse winking


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by LordRevan on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:18 am

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:true, true - actually. Feel free to have fun in the forest! Oops, I hope that's not an arrow protruding from your knee winking

    Fixed. silly


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:20 am

    No, give no reference to that abomination!


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:32 am

    there were better things in skyrim to make memes out of if i remember... a pity that caught on.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by LordRevan on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:39 am

    Agreed there were better memes to make but I think that caught just because how often it was said. Too often.

    But we shouldn't derail this further lol silly


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:41 am

    How RP heavy is this cov going to be?


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by billy_bayonet on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:14 am

    Ya no i thought this cov could work out, but it seems to me like your gonna fall flat on your face, if you dont Decide how your gonna do this, and also making freinds i see :/


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:42 am

    Heh, well I like the idea of a velka covenant velka's gear is just damn badass.


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    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:37 am

    ^^ It is cool gear but he has besmirched it in a manner. He pulled off the ideals in a bad context.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by swordiris on Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:47 pm

    Maybe I just need help, I've never really done this before. I'm kind of disorganised by nature.

    Basically this is a Darkmoon velka based cov not bound by honor and unafraid of making enemies.

    I want it to be pvp based on DM invasions but incorporate my members working together as well.

    Ideas? This won't fall apart. I tend to be stubborn about stuff like this.


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    Re: Messengers of Velka

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:11 pm

    Good, stubbornness is required for this to work.
    basically you have to draw the line for being a no holds barred bunch in terms of lore and being assholes to other people if you endorse ganking you will put off many people on this forum simply because we are all sick of being ganked xD


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