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    Post by lordgodofhell on Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:49 pm


    Does anyone in the community know if the Stone Greatsword's twop buffs yourself like the twop miracle? Or does it buff the weapon.

    I ask this because I wanted to know if it was possible to first cast Havels Shield buff and then cast the Stone greatsword twop. Would it work or not? What happens?




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    Post by Federally on Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:30 pm

    Havel's Shield buffs you?


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    Post by DoughGuy on Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:31 pm

    Its R2 gives you a massive poise increase.


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    Post by Yarxov on Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:44 pm

    It shouldnt since its a weapon special attack, same as MGS r2.


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:12 pm

    its a body buff, so no, no havel poise buff.


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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:44 pm

    *Confirmed* You can use both havels shields R2 and Stone GS's R2 w/o one having to wear off.
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    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:52 am

    Why exactly would you want to do this?


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    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:37 am

    To be a **** in PvP obviously silly

    Havels shield stupid poise so they can't stunlock you while doing Stone greatsword R2


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    Post by lordgodofhell on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:51 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:*Confirmed* You can use both havels shields R2 and Stone GS's R2 w/o one having to wear off.

    Thanks Fruit Punch Ninja, that is all I was looking for.


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    Post by Spurgun on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:53 pm

    DoughGuy wrote:Its R2 gives you a massive poise increase.

    IIRC it doesn’t give you any poise, but if someone hits you then they’ll get the animation of hitting a wall. And i lasts longer than the stun so you can counterattack.
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    Post by lordgodofhell on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:58 pm

    Spurgun wrote:
    DoughGuy wrote:Its R2 gives you a massive poise increase.

    IIRC it doesn’t give you any poise, but if someone hits you then they’ll get the animation of hitting a wall. And i lasts longer than the stun so you can counterattack.

    Spur it doesn't show up on your stats page but it does in fact give poise.


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    Post by Spurgun on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:59 pm

    Okay, does anyone know how much poise it gives?
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    Post by lordgodofhell on Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:07 pm

    Spurgun wrote:Okay, does anyone know how much poise it gives?

    It is over 76 as you can tank ANY weapons hit from a player while wearing zero armor. Of course it does not add defense or at least a very negligible amount so you will still take all of the damage from the hit. Kind of it's crutch.

    Still, this is very interesting info to know that one can be high poise, no armor and have twop active without investing into faith at all. Could inspire new builds.


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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:51 pm

    be wary of dragons with havels shield, cause then they can poise bow stab you...


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    Post by Carphil on Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:07 pm

    Once again, the dragons with a bad reputation Prostration


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    Post by DoughGuy on Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:09 pm

    From needs to patch them hard. Get rid of the spam glitch and then remobe bow BSes completely. I really dont know why you can do that in the first place. Its stupid and doesnt make sense.


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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:08 pm

    The havels shield doesnt actually give you poise, but i guess its kinda like that. It gives you skin the same weapon deflection effect that most greatshields and the iron round shield have. It causes most weapons to bounce off you staggering your opponent.
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    Post by Federally on Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:20 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:The havels shield doesnt actually give you poise, but i guess its kinda like that. It gives you skin the same weapon deflection effect that most greatshields and the iron round shield have. It causes most weapons to bounce off you staggering your opponent.

    So its like iron flesh


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    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:21 pm

    basically yea.
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    Post by lordgodofhell on Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:39 pm


    The biggest difference of course being iron flesh has been nerfed and slow walks you where Haveys shield buff gives more poise than iron flesh and you keep your running speed which is super nice.

    I have been having crazy fun with my naked Stone Greatsword/Havels shield toon since Fruits answer. Sucks against 3 v 1s but I win a good amount of 2 v1s. One on One usually ends bad for them lol.

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