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    Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:30 pm

    So I'm on YouTube watching Sansvie basically reinvent DkS PvP when I see him take a GS hit, stun for a split second, toggle escape and immediately parry. He goes on to do this many, many times. I'm thinking, ".........holy f**k." Bam, light goes off...

    THATS EFFING GENIUS. Never occured to me to do this playing on my below 53 breakpoint builds. Or ever, for that matter. If someone is willing to practice this with me, I think we could both benefit tremendously.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by mofomey on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:48 pm

    oh giddy up, im in. im always low poise for some stupid reason. lol!


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Quarik on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:49 pm

    Explain to me exactly when you have to do the toggle to escape the lock. I've never been able to do it reliably.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:50 pm

    I have been lately too. We'll do some **** in PW later.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:55 pm

    He does it AS he's taking the hit, not between them. It's the same concept as a tank parry against a dex weapon, except you can do it against any weapon with poise being a nonissue. And the dude has quite clearly determined that he's going to tank the hit beforehand, so he's prepared to toggle out. The video I saw him do it in is titled "Garo Forest Invasions". Watch it. YT channel is "sansviedotcom".


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Carphil on Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:55 pm

    Sanvie is a pro IMO. I've being trying to do this since a week ago, and I could only do it against ultra greatswords (zweihanders), rest is almost impossible lol


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:17 pm

    Like I said, you have to KNOW you're about to intentionally tank a hit so you can nail the timing. If we could get this **** down... well, obviously it's going to ruin the poise stack/GS build's s**t. If they see the first hit connect, they WILL swing again. It's a way to guarantee the equivalent of a setup parry.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Buggy Virus on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:26 pm

    Sansviedot is a dark souls god.

    Screw making Gwyn unparry-able to fix the final boss, just replace him with sansviedot.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Buggy Virus on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:26 pm

    Plus link to the video.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard on Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:48 pm

    i think alot of sansvies videos are actually ports from japans version of youtube, some are actually him but at least half are from nico video or whatever its called, i remember him stating this at least once in the comments...


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:48 pm

    I'd link it, but I'm on my phone. I put the title of the vid in an earlier comment. He basically poops on these two forest campers for a good eight minutes until they're out of flasks. And he barely takes damage.

    And if Sans were the final boss, people would be rage quitting everywhere.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Ghadis_God on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:18 am

    That's absolutely nuts. If I knew the oppenent was going to do it though, I could hypothetically pull off a pivot bs while he toggles/parries. On the other hand, I could absolutely decimate gankers if I learned to do this, with light armor and the hornet ring on. I always felt that the toggle escape was a bit glitchlike though, I'm hesitant to use it for that reason. I prefer the poise break Cursed GS build I'm using now, I've gotten used to stunlocking Havels and Giant's armor.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:14 am

    I like that Sansvie guy, but I hope you know that *most* aren't his video's. He just published the video's from another site onto youtube


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:00 pm

    Whether or not it's his gameplay is irrelevent. Someone is doing it, and that **** is awesome.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by BLA1NE on Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:12 pm

    Great idea, never thought to do that either! I could see it being more use against greatswords than ultra-greatswords, though. UGSs are so slow, you can parry their first hit on sight as it is. GSs, though, can be tricky. But is toggling out quick enough to setup-parry a GS, or is it only slow enough to be used against ultra-large weapons?


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by FinPeku on Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:44 pm


    Here it is done against MLGS. 13:55. What a way to win big grin


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by NPCWhiteMage on Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:29 pm

    Call me a noob, but what is a toggle escape parry?


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:03 pm

    when you do a weapon swap to escape a stunlock and immediately parry


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Tolvo on Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:38 pm

    You guys need to read For the Glory of Alvina sometime, I actually posted a few tactics in regards to this long ago there haha.
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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:17 pm

    In one video he actually toggle escape parries a katana. It's definitely possible for GS.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by NPCWhiteMage on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:06 pm

    Phoenix Rising wrote:when you do a weapon swap to escape a stunlock and immediately parry

    Oh...whoa. That's clever.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:15 pm

    All right. Went to the second bonfire in Anor, dropped poise to 0 and practiced on the Silver Knights. This technique is actually really, really easy. And there is NO stagger time at all of you swap correctly, giving you just as much time as you would have for a tank parry.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Wisp on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:21 pm

    Sounds awesome, just make sure you have the VIT to tank some hits...
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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by DamageCK on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:23 pm

    Yeah. Especially against a greatsword. It's a situation method, but a great one to have.


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    Re: Toggle Escape Parries.

    Post by Wisp on Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:25 pm

    It means you can free up a ring slot in a lot of builds though...

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