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    new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by omega Elf on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:20 pm

    http://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=4734553825922791
    i have 2 play styles with this, first one is i equip wolf ring for high poise and 2
    hand the murakumo to stunlock to death tanks/bs fishers, i do this in the forrest covenant and can actually take out multiple gankers at once sometimes its lol (perfect for spawn gankers)
    second play-style i switch wolf for dwgr and play more tactically mostly using washing pole
    the shield i switch to crest shield if I need good magic defense but i find fire is the bigger threat
    the whip i use against parry spammers and can also parry with it, i'll use the whip together with the washing pole to cause massive bleeding
    opinions and suggestions to improve this build are welcome
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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:26 pm

    77 endurance...? Okay erm. ugh. not worth it on a 120. not in my opinon anyway. and unless you are wearing giant armor for the looks I think there are better setups in terms of weight/poise


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by BindMind on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:40 pm

    Looks good. Sounds like a great anti-noob setup big grin


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by omega Elf on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:40 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:77 endurance...? Okay erm. ugh. not worth it on a 120. not in my opinon anyway. and unless you are wearing giant armor for the looks I think there are better setups in terms of weight/poise

    i dont mind the looks of it but its for poise/defence but id like to know your setup
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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by BindMind on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:44 pm

    This will offer you more poise, and a little more health too. Just a change to the armor and a couple of stats silly

    Giant's isn't the greatest set for poise; black iron, havel's and the soldier's waistcloth are the best in that regard.


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:49 pm

    right off the bat.
    http://tinyurl.com/7jqtabo
    should be able to make more given a bit of time... I dont see why you want SO much poise...


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by omega Elf on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:58 pm

    BindMind wrote:This will offer you more poise, and a little more health too. Just a change to the armor and a couple of stats silly

    Giant's isn't the greatest set for poise; black iron, havel's and the soldier's waistcloth are the best in that regard.

    those extra 63hp are canceled out by the massive defense reduction though i do like the poise
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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by omega Elf on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:02 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:right off the bat.
    http://tinyurl.com/7jqtabo
    should be able to make more given a bit of time... I dont see why you want SO much poise...

    fight me you'll soon learn its importance lol
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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by BindMind on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:20 pm

    omega Elf wrote:
    BindMind wrote:This will offer you more poise, and a little more health too. Just a change to the armor and a couple of stats silly

    Giant's isn't the greatest set for poise; black iron, havel's and the soldier's waistcloth are the best in that regard.

    those extra 63hp are canceled out by the massive defense reduction though i do like the poise

    Aww, how cute. You still think defense matters

    It's only about a 1/6 difference anyways. Not a big deal in the long run. That poise will be much handier.


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by omega Elf on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:21 pm

    http://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1278556176356775
    same stats different setup for max poise if you want to specialize in that play-style
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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by BindMind on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:23 pm

    omega Elf wrote:http://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1278556176356775
    same stats different setup for max poise if you want to specialize in that play-style

    He wants to be able to quickly switch to the washing pole.

    Although I agree, this would probably be a more effective anti-ganking build.

    And while you're at it, you may as well throw in some pyromancy.


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:25 pm

    Defence does matter bind just not all that much silly


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by BindMind on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:26 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:Defence does matter bind just not all that much silly

    It doesn't matter nearly as much as poise.

    And a 70 defence difference when you already have 450 defence in the first place... Yeah, doesn't matter.

    Anyways, with 161 poise, you can tank THREE hits from a claymore, and TWO from ultra weapons.

    That's so god-damned badass.


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:32 pm

    *brain explodes* I clearly have a very different playstyle to you guys.


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by omega Elf on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:34 pm

    BindMind wrote:
    omega Elf wrote:
    BindMind wrote:This will offer you more poise, and a little more health too. Just a change to the armor and a couple of stats silly

    Giant's isn't the greatest set for poise; black iron, havel's and the soldier's waistcloth are the best in that regard.

    those extra 63hp are canceled out by the massive defense reduction though i do like the poise

    Aww, how cute. You still think defense matters

    It's only about a 1/6 difference anyways. Not a big deal in the long run. That poise will be much handier.

    i faced off against a guy in the full giants wolf setup and i had full havels wolf, we both used washing poles and traded blow for blow until i was dead, i had dealt the first blow on him and yet he still survived with a 3rd of his hp, i had max hp for that setup 2280hp, if i'd used the murakumo i expect i'd have won as he would have got stun-locked first but defense does seem to matter from what i could glean from that experience


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    Re: new build murakumo/washing pole

    Post by omega Elf on Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:42 pm

    BindMind wrote:
    omega Elf wrote:http://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=1278556176356775
    same stats different setup for max poise if you want to specialize in that play-style

    He wants to be able to quickly switch to the washing pole.

    Although I agree, this would probably be a more effective anti-ganking build.

    And while you're at it, you may as well throw in some pyromancy.

    that could work, often i'll run out of stamina before i can deal the killing blow, though i expect great fireball would work better as they always try to run away to heal and having no stamina i cant make chase

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