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    Tired of the cheating...

    Post by Zaku87 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:50 am

    Wheres the fun in everyone deleveling and then invading poor, defenseless level 10s?

    Four times in one hour, I was invaded by four different people in black knight armor, brandishing +5 Lightning weapons. Once, I was invaded by someone wearing Gwyn's Robes, using a scythe.

    And heres the worst part. I'm on the PS3. So what gives? I didn't even think you could delevel this time around? Or is savegame editing finally happening on the PS3 as well?
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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by RANT on Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:03 am

    bb glitch, google it, we're not allowed to talk about it in the forums.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:50 am

    Trust me dude, just about everyone's tired of it.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by RANT on Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:54 am

    what you could do is level up right away, you dont have to worry about them once youre past the depths. what i do when i start a new toon is go hollow up to quelagg, after that you still get them but by then you should have good gear to kick their ***.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:58 am

    I'm pretty much hollow unless I'm invading.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by RANT on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:12 am

    ErrJon6661 wrote:I'm pretty much hollow unless I'm invading.

    im always alive, i cant stand to look at my toon all withered, specially cause theyre all female.
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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:13 am

    Hahahahaha. I'm always in full armor. I'll make a speed run to darkroot to get the knights armor if I don't start as one.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by sids09 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:14 am

    RantFromRant wrote:
    ErrJon6661 wrote:I'm pretty much hollow unless I'm invading.

    im always alive, i cant stand to look at my toon all withered, specially cause theyre all female.

    That's actually the entire reason I joined dragon covenant, so I'd never have to look at red wrinkletits again.
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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:16 am

    I use the dragon body more if it gave some sort of defense or at least some poise.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by RANT on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:18 am

    why did they do that?!!! i got the game on day one and was so excited that i made the toon look just like my wife and then the game started, i was so mad. my wife was mad too.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:19 am

    I guess since you have full life hollowed somethings gotta give haha.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by RANT on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:23 am

    ErrJon6661 wrote:I guess since you have full life hollowed somethings gotta give haha.

    i guess, still not cool though.
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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:29 am

    I miss the having half life in spirit form. It takes all the reward of being human away.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by RANT on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:39 am

    ErrJon6661 wrote:I miss the having half life in spirit form. It takes all the reward of being human away.

    yes, i was very surprised they got rid of that.
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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:41 am

    They should have at least halved defence or something as a hollow. Or you have less attack power or something... Its just like... Oh hey, I cant summon. Oh well.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by RANT on Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:48 am

    ErrJon6661 wrote:They should have at least halved defence or something as a hollow. Or you have less attack power or something... Its just like... Oh hey, I cant summon. Oh well.

    lol yeah, one of the reasons dark is a lot easier than demons.
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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by justwant2play on Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:35 am

    I agree. They should have kept the half-hp for hollow form. Now, there really isn't much difference between hollow and alive.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by aceluby on Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:47 am

    ErrJon6661 wrote:Trust me dude, just about everyone's tired of it.

    If you venture to the other forums you'll see we're one of the few that don't promote the glitch. I went to another forum that will not be mentioned and they have a sticky on not only how to do it, but a sign up list to mule 99 of every item to your character. There are people who haven't even played the game that are getting every piece of every gear, every upgrade path, and 99 of every soul and consumable. It's quite sickening if you ask me.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by strangejoy on Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:05 pm

    aceluby wrote:
    ErrJon6661 wrote:Trust me dude, just about everyone's tired of it.

    If you venture to the other forums you'll see we're one of the few that don't promote the glitch. I went to another forum that will not be mentioned and they have a sticky on not only how to do it, but a sign up list to mule 99 of every item to your character. There are people who haven't even played the game that are getting every piece of every gear, every upgrade path, and 99 of every soul and consumable. It's quite sickening if you ask me.

    Agreed. Moreover, the fact that these people are getting 99 divine blessings is going to absolutely destroy pvp. Good going, guys.

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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by Zaku87 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:56 am

    Well, I've beaten the game three times over already; so with all this rampant cheating, I'll either be playing offline from now on, or quitting entirely. Poor, poor design, Atlus/From. You really let the game get away from you on the patches, didn't you?





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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by kiwi_commander on Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:17 am

    I follow my own honor code when it comes to the BB glitch. I only use it to create new PVP characters so I don't have to farm for slabs. As far as invading with full blown weapons in the burg... that is just not cool.

    Hell, I just got my world rocked as a SL10 Thief by taking a Lightnight claymore +5 to the face.
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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by ted1023 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:40 am

    The only up side to the BB Glitch is that when you start a new toon you can now defend yourselves against grievers.. Unfortunately it works both ways and the people who have not played thru the game yet and don't have upgraded weapons, still get the short end of the "sword". Grievers have been around since day one, way before the BB glitch was found..it just made it easier.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by Emergence on Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:46 am

    The fact that the glitch is also used to grief low lvls is the reason we refuse to allow its discussion in detail. While it does have some merits in the PvP meta, we are simply not comfortable with a take the bad with the good approach. Anyone really interested in it doesn't have to search too far, so if you feel like you have to do it to stay competitive in the arms race, then power to you.

    If the glitch leaves a bad taste in your mouth, I would recommend linking up with Maneater Mildred's store of the Damned in the trade section. Donate your gear and help each other out the old fashioned way.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by reim0027 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:40 pm

    I stay hollow until I come back up from the shrine to do the gargoyles (so it is a fairly quick run to the gargoyles, and, many times, there are phantoms waiting to be summoned to help). After that, I go down to blighttown. I haven't run into a griefer there, and once I'm done there, I've upped my SL beyond most low-level griefers.


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    Re: Tired of the cheating...

    Post by SiR10iN on Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:30 pm

    Not everyone out there that has a low level player with fully upgraded gear is a cheater. It is relatively easy to playthrough this entire game with a SL1 character and accumulate your gear and weapons legitimately. I myself have a level 13 character that I did NOT glitch in any way shape or form, including exploiting the bottomless box. That being said, it is rather sad that people with characters like this invade and usually end up fighting low level opponents. My goal personally is to invade high levels with my lvl 13 (75+ for example) and embarrass them by defeating them. When I run into a low level guy I normally drop and upgrade item or something for them as a consolation.

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