Life without the DWGR.

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    Life without the DWGR.

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:40 pm

    I wonder how PvP would be without the DWGR. Would everyone fast roll? Would a new higher SL cap be established so that tank builds can fast roll? 50 End minimum builds? Havel's Ring a must? If DWGR didn't exist, this would be my build.

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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:45 pm

    I do without DWGR and med roll on some builds.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:50 pm

    I think it would do the online aspect of DkS a world of good. But that's just my personal opinion.

    Maybe I'm biased since I usually go to the trouble of keeping most my builds at regular fast-roll speed.

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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:51 pm

    LOL Forum I think everyone would use Havel's + FAP.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:54 pm

    I'd only use something else with casters. Every melee oriented build would be 56 poise and fast roll, whatever the cost.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:56 pm

    Indeed, I don't think we would see an increase of fat rolls. Maybe medium rolls...


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:59 pm

    Their would be more fat folls, they'd just all be turtles.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Buggy Virus on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:06 am

    We wouldn't raise the level cap, turtles would just have to deal with not having a fast roll.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:08 am

    this is what i wear sometimes, i go with med roll a lot which is actually pretty good and not that much changes in my fighting styles when i do. i would never fat roll, i just dont like tanking(i dont mean turtling which most fat rollers do)


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:10 am

    I have some with and some without. Never used a build that didn't have some form of fast roll. You'd probably just end up seeing even more Dex builds to keep weight down. Or turtle tanks as suggested.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:14 am

    Yeah, everyone with tiny weapons. At least we would see less Zweis and BKGAs, LOL!


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Unforseen on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:33 am

    I have had most of my characters have the ability to fast roll with some nice armor and decent poise. Since i generally go for pure melee builds, it leaves me with a larger array of armors and weapons to use while fast rolling. It's fun in pvp imo.
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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:54 am

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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by bloodpixel on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:57 am

    No black cleric robe?
    Disappoint.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:57 am

    If you don't worry about poise, the dwgr becomes useless. I've been free of it ever since I started running 0 poise builds.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Federally on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:49 am

    I did away with the DWGR a while ago.

    I have 2 fast rollers, a medium roller and a fat roller. I love my fat roller tbh, everyone gets over confident thinking I'll be easy to BS, poor them.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by ErrJon6661 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:23 am

    Its actually not really any easier to bs someone who's rolling slow. It all depends on how good that person is at defending against bs.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:02 am

    **** 0 poise.

    You're argument is absurd by the way. If I don't worry about damage, weapons become useless. If you don't worry about life, air becomes useless. Technically true, but not valid become its to broad.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Federally on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:26 am

    ErrJon6661 wrote:Its actually not really any easier to bs someone who's rolling slow. It all depends on how good that person is at defending against bs.

    It doesn't matter if its true or not, they think it's true, which leads to death by blunt force trauma.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by N_Raist on Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:44 am

    My thoughts about the DWGR: it should work with a burden weight, and not with a percentage. If you are under, lets say, 30.0 weight, you can ninja roll. It would totally make sense, because a ninja tank is simply stupid. My opinion.

    WyrmHero wrote:LOL Forum I think everyone would use Havel's + FAP.

    That would mean no Hornet Ring.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:05 am

    Ever been bsd by a lightning great axe? Without the hornets ring it breaks the 1400 mark, more than enough to kill many builds, and thats no dragon roar, no pw, not a counter attack.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Forum Pirate on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:09 am

    The game is what it is guys, either don't play, or stop complaining about things you don't like. Email From, because they can change things. We can't.


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Darkson on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:18 am

    But at least people can discuss things/share their oppinions/look for affirmation.

    I guess mainly it's about looking for affirmation...


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    Re: Life without the DWGR.

    Post by Federally on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:24 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:The game is what it is guys, either don't play, or stop complaining about things you don't like. Email From, because they can change things. We can't.

    People talk about things they like. Sometimes they even complain about things they like. It's the way of things, don't fight it.


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