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    Post by BackwardsBaboon Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:03 am

    I am trying to put the finishing touches on my first proper build (never actually planned out all my stats/equip beforehand) and i just have a quick question. Does upgrading a crossbow along the "divine" path actually work? Looking at the numbers on the build calculator, it seems to, but i seem to remember reading somewhere that it does not actually work. Or maybe I'm thinking of bows? Either way, I'd appreciate if anyone can clear this up, and i apologize if the answer is "easy to look up" but my only net access right now is my phone & it can be a pain sometimes!
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    Post by WyrmHero Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:16 am

    There aren't any magic bolts, so the answer is no.
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    Post by Yarxov Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:18 am

    Tolvo has some Avatar competition...


    Id go with +15 Light crossbow with heavy bolts. I plan on doing a X-bow and dagger nobly play through soon big grin
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    Post by BindMind Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:23 am

    Divine works fine, the problem is that there are no divine bolts.

    You may have heard about "split damage" and having damage go through multiple resistances. Typically, you want your weapon to inflict only one kind of damage, so that it only goes through one resistance modifier.

    That said, usually you want either a +15 crossbow or a +5 lightning crossbow. Both of those have corresponding bolts. Lightning is quite a bit more expensive in terms of souls though, but after you finish your build, souls won't be a problem. Lightning IS worth the extra cost, by the way.

    If you're okay with using a bow, you can use a fire bow and use fire arrows as well.
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    Post by BackwardsBaboon Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:54 am

    No offense to Tolvo, but I THINK I had mine first (couple weeks now) but regardless Andrei is the man and is certainly deserving of at least 2 avatars!!! Divine Light Crossbow 3207319737

    I do recall reading the thread about split damages, I just wasn't entirely sure how it worked with crossbows & different types of bolts. Gonna go with the +15 with heavy bolts. I already know first-hand that thing is a beast...have disrupted many would-be humanity poppers with it before!!
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    Post by Yarxov Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:31 pm

    Tolvo has had his ever since I joined (One day after you)

    Butt you're right, Andrei can have two avatars. But what about the other Blacksmiths? We need a Giant Blacksmith Avatar! He has the best dialogue in the game, that deserves an honor. ("I Hath shiny shiny! I make weapons shiny!")

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    Post by User Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:40 pm

    It i not the magic damage you should add; It is the divine multiplier in damage you should consider.
    Skeletons will get 110% damage from weapon, however the magic damage will be removed. When a divine crossbow kills a skeleton, it stays dead.

    That might be the plus for divine crossbow.
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    Post by Yarxov Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:06 pm

    But thats only useful for New Londo and the Tomb/Cat.

    Can X-bows be occult? That would be good for PvP because of the occult damage bonus against players.
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    Post by User Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:07 pm

    No Occult, Enchanted, Chaos, and Raw (I think) raw is non available).
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    Post by Yarxov Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:12 pm

    Yep, checked Mugenmonkey, none of those, sadly. Occult should be available since it isn't an extension of Divine, its the opposite.
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    Post by dancash1808 Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:16 pm

    Occult damage bonus against player is not confirmed apparently. Idk
    also I just tend to shy away from crossbows since I still dont understand the upgrades and associated problems.
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    Post by WyrmHero Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:16 pm

    Yarxov wrote:But thats only useful for New Londo and the Tomb/Cat.

    Can X-bows be occult? That would be good for PvP because of the occult damage bonus against players.

    That's just a rumor. I have tested Divine and Occult Claymore on a human player and they did almost the same damage. I think Divine did more. (2~5 damage difference).
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    Post by Ecko Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:20 pm

    I was thinking of asking a similar question, so instead of making a whole new thread I think I'll just ask it here.

    For a crossbow, is a +5 Lightning going to be better in the average PVP situation than a +15 normal despite the split damage?

    Also, I know that the Heavy Crossbow has the highest damage per individual bolt and the Avelyn has the highest damage if all three bolts hit, but do the extra bolts give Avelyn better poise break or are they the same?
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    Post by User Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:22 pm

    Not really, no. Because having two elements attacking gets defended by two different armour ratios, and the lightning crossbow ONLY works with lightning damage, if you have lightning bolts. Lughtning blots is 700 ammo. Now times 700 by 999, and that is over half a million worth of souls
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    Post by Yarxov Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:23 pm

    I'd stick with a normal X-bow andHeavy bolts.
    All others are flawed or too situational.

    ^Tested on Mugenmonkey, Sniper X-bow does more than Heavy, bigger range too, Avelyn only does like 260, but that should be total right?

    My Lighting Avelyn +4 with heavy bolts does about 160 in a full burst on a Siler knight, but a light x-bow+11 did 120 in a single hit.

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