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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:41 pm

    Well as the title said I am crap at pvp, riddle me this - why can I be so successful in the forest yet I am terrible at 1v1's outside of the forest, heck... I can beat quite a few of the forum members in duels or have close matches.

    As soon as I leave the forest to go fight in the burg or any other place I just get destroyed, my Win ratio just completely degrades and I only win about 1 fight per 5... I have come to the immature statement that I must be either crap at pvp - suffer from too many latency issues or finally, I need to l2p.

    It is tempting to stop pvping just due to the fact that everyone I run into has over 2k health... Christ - one person survived two parries.

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    Should I just go back to my forest - or continue this bulls**t?


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    Post by bloodpixel Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:41 pm

    I think you should do the Giga Drill Breaker.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:44 pm

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:everyone I run into has over 2k health

    This is by far the most annoying aspect of legitimate PvP.
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:46 pm

    ^^ Especially when some of your 120 builds use 30 vit and you are against the 2k+ people who use hornets ring and OHKO also xD
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    Post by RANT Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:08 pm

    the burg has two thing everyone does, they all have more than 2k vit and they all roll bs, thats pretty much all they do in there which can be so boring, once you learn how to counter that you'll be ok, and is it just me or does it get laggy as hell most of the time?
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:17 pm

    Aye - it is ridiculously laggy there.
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    Post by Extertionist Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:26 pm

    I like pvp everywhere but the forest. But yeah, every burg pvper have way to much health, like really.

    I have found Kiln is a mix of pvp.
    Forest is full of ganker assholes who don't want to actually pvp, just brutalizing.
    And finally Burg has a lot of legit pvpers that parry and backstab you at all almost every chance in combination with regular fighting tactics.


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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:28 pm

    Extertionist wrote:I like pvp everywhere but the forest. But yeah, every burg pvper has way to much health, like really.

    I have found Kiln is a mix of pvp.
    Forest is full of ganker assholes who are easy to kill - they are infact the ones that get brutalized. winking
    And finally Burg has a lot of legit pvpers that parry and backstab you at all almost every chance with their hornet rings and poise overdose.

    Fixed that for you
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    Post by Extertionist Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:34 pm

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:
    Extertionist wrote:I like pvp everywhere but the forest. But yeah, every burg pvper has way to much health, like really.

    I have found Kiln is a mix of pvp.
    Forest is full of ganker assholes who are easy to kill - they are infact the ones that get brutalized. winking
    And finally Burg has a lot of legit pvpers that parry and backstab you at all almost every chance with their hornet rings and poise overdose.

    Fixed that for you
    I wish, when I was trying to summon people for sif I usually ended up facing two forest hunters and a darkwraith before I could get one guy summoned, I was never victorious because they'd always corner me against all the npc forest hunters and I cannot take on upwards of 6 things at once.
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    Post by RANT Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:36 pm

    i cant believe the burg is laggier than btown lol
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:49 pm

    im convinced its foreign players. the burg for me is probably 60% fights with jpn players, and ive noticed even playing other games that the average jpn gamer has a connection that is 1 or 2 bars. I downloaded the anarchy reigns demo off jpn psn and was in a few multiplayer matches and it shows everyones connections before the match. I had 5 bars while every single other person had either 1 or 2 not a single bar more, and this is out of 10 players each match and multiple matches.. I think the remaining NA/UK community needs to find another spot for honorable duels. I think that the jpn community is just booming in dark souls and basically makes up the majority of the online community. I can deal with a bit of lag, thats no big deal, but people who literally have dial up just shouldnt be playing online games imo. i understand though, if all i had was dial up i would probably still play too. i just BC out or quit out now, theres a difference between a roll bs and lag. anyone can roll bs with ease if they have an extra second to position themselves after their roll w/o the player even seeing you.
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    Post by Shkar Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:57 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:im convinced its foreign players. the burg for me is probably 60% fights with jpn players, and ive noticed even playing other games that the average jpn gamer has a connection that is 1 or 2 bars. I downloaded the anarchy reigns demo off jpn psn and was in a few multiplayer matches and it shows everyones connections before the match. I had 5 bars while every single other person had either 1 or 2 not a single bar more, and this is out of 10 players each match and multiple matches.. I think the remaining NA/UK community needs to find another spot for honorable duels. I think that the jpn community is just booming in dark souls and basically makes up the majority of the online community. I can deal with a bit of lag, thats no big deal, but people who literally have dial up just shouldnt be playing online games imo. i understand though, if all i had was dial up i would probably still play too. i just BC out or quit out now, theres a difference between a roll bs and lag. anyone can roll bs with ease if they have an extra second to position themselves after their roll w/o the player even seeing you.

    Just a heads up, but of you have max connection and everyone else has say 1 or 2 it's probably just the method. It most likely ALWAYS shows you as having max, I've played a game like that before.
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    Post by Reaperfan Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:10 pm

    I'm absolutely garbage at PvP outside of FC, and even there I'm more in it for the fun and social connections with you all than my win ratio (hint: that statement is me saying I'm pretty bad there too winking)

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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:15 pm

    Shkar wrote:
    FruitPunchNinja wrote:im convinced its foreign players. the burg for me is probably 60% fights with jpn players, and ive noticed even playing other games that the average jpn gamer has a connection that is 1 or 2 bars. I downloaded the anarchy reigns demo off jpn psn and was in a few multiplayer matches and it shows everyones connections before the match. I had 5 bars while every single other person had either 1 or 2 not a single bar more, and this is out of 10 players each match and multiple matches.. I think the remaining NA/UK community needs to find another spot for honorable duels. I think that the jpn community is just booming in dark souls and basically makes up the majority of the online community. I can deal with a bit of lag, thats no big deal, but people who literally have dial up just shouldnt be playing online games imo. i understand though, if all i had was dial up i would probably still play too. i just BC out or quit out now, theres a difference between a roll bs and lag. anyone can roll bs with ease if they have an extra second to position themselves after their roll w/o the player even seeing you.

    Just a heads up, but of you have max connection and everyone else has say 1 or 2 it's probably just the method. It most likely ALWAYS shows you as having max, I've played a game like that before.


    i dont understand what you mean by "just the method". also my laptop always says i have max bars, and i have vios so that doesnt surprise me. ive played fighting games with people in the US and they didnt have 2 bars. remember you are playing on 360, it has region lock im pretty sure while ps3 does not.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:16 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:im convinced its foreign players. the burg for me is probably 60% fights with jpn players, and ive noticed even playing other games that the average jpn gamer has a connection that is 1 or 2 bars. I downloaded the anarchy reigns demo off jpn psn and was in a few multiplayer matches and it shows everyones connections before the match. I had 5 bars while every single other person had either 1 or 2 not a single bar more, and this is out of 10 players each match and multiple matches.. I think the remaining NA/UK community needs to find another spot for honorable duels. I think that the jpn community is just booming in dark souls and basically makes up the majority of the online community. I can deal with a bit of lag, thats no big deal, but people who literally have dial up just shouldnt be playing online games imo. i understand though, if all i had was dial up i would probably still play too. i just BC out or quit out now, theres a difference between a roll bs and lag. anyone can roll bs with ease if they have an extra second to position themselves after their roll w/o the player even seeing you.

    Maybe this is a PS3 thing, Xbox doesn't seem to have as many Japanese players. It's mostly NAs and Euros with a smaller, though sizable enough to mention, amount of SAs.
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    Post by bloodpixel Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:41 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:
    FruitPunchNinja wrote:im convinced its foreign players. the burg for me is probably 60% fights with jpn players, and ive noticed even playing other games that the average jpn gamer has a connection that is 1 or 2 bars. I downloaded the anarchy reigns demo off jpn psn and was in a few multiplayer matches and it shows everyones connections before the match. I had 5 bars while every single other person had either 1 or 2 not a single bar more, and this is out of 10 players each match and multiple matches.. I think the remaining NA/UK community needs to find another spot for honorable duels. I think that the jpn community is just booming in dark souls and basically makes up the majority of the online community. I can deal with a bit of lag, thats no big deal, but people who literally have dial up just shouldnt be playing online games imo. i understand though, if all i had was dial up i would probably still play too. i just BC out or quit out now, theres a difference between a roll bs and lag. anyone can roll bs with ease if they have an extra second to position themselves after their roll w/o the player even seeing you.

    Maybe this is a PS3 thing, Xbox doesn't seem to have as many Japanese players. It's mostly NAs and Euros with a smaller, though sizable enough to mention, amount of SAs.
    Xbox has no Japanese players. For whatever reason, it was only sold in PS3 in Japan.
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    Post by BindMind Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:43 pm

    You might have more luck being the host in the burg. Invading there means people are better prepared, or even overly levelled.
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    Post by Shkar Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:35 pm

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:
    Shkar wrote:
    FruitPunchNinja wrote:im convinced its foreign players. the burg for me is probably 60% fights with jpn players, and ive noticed even playing other games that the average jpn gamer has a connection that is 1 or 2 bars. I downloaded the anarchy reigns demo off jpn psn and was in a few multiplayer matches and it shows everyones connections before the match. I had 5 bars while every single other person had either 1 or 2 not a single bar more, and this is out of 10 players each match and multiple matches.. I think the remaining NA/UK community needs to find another spot for honorable duels. I think that the jpn community is just booming in dark souls and basically makes up the majority of the online community. I can deal with a bit of lag, thats no big deal, but people who literally have dial up just shouldnt be playing online games imo. i understand though, if all i had was dial up i would probably still play too. i just BC out or quit out now, theres a difference between a roll bs and lag. anyone can roll bs with ease if they have an extra second to position themselves after their roll w/o the player even seeing you.

    Just a heads up, but of you have max connection and everyone else has say 1 or 2 it's probably just the method. It most likely ALWAYS shows you as having max, I've played a game like that before.


    i dont understand what you mean by "just the method". also my laptop always says i have max bars, and i have vios so that doesnt surprise me. ive played fighting games with people in the US and they didnt have 2 bars. remember you are playing on 360, it has region lock im pretty sure while ps3 does not.

    I meant that it was most likely just how they programmed it to show/test connections.

    For example, with Minecraft multiplayer it ALWAYS shows you as having 5 bars. Everyone else could see 2 or 3, but you will ALWAYS see 5.
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    The first "duels"/ganks i do each day always ends with me being killed because of a noob mistake. I once tried to roll with TWoP active, three times Don't Worry - this is resolved, I was having a Bad Day xD 2707236321
    After those first losses i start to win, since i try to concentrate on fighting. but i lose a lot to anything ranged, even lighting spear has hit me a couple of times. Since i never time my rolls right with lag. And most of the times i lose is because i act before i think.

    OT: When i duel in the burg almost no one tries to BS me, i don’t know why. And i don’t see many with over 2k health.
    Could it be because you "try" to fight honorably? I don’t know how you fight against ganks but i often BS fish a lot and dodge a lot. I never just BS fish in duels (IMO) and i attack a lot. So maybe you are placing restrictions on yourself when it’s not a gank?
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    Post by Reaperfan Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:20 pm

    bloodpixel wrote:Xbox has no Japanese players. For whatever reason, it was only sold in PS3 in Japan.

    Xbox and the Xbox 360 have never been popular in Japan. Seriously, never. To them, the Xbox has always been the console that delivers FPS games, and FPS has never been a popular genre in Japan. Because of that unpopularity, the Xbox version wouldn't be a big seller in Japan, and it probably wouldn't turn a profit from the extra costs it would've taken to create a Japanese version of the Xbox port.
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    ^^ Turns out I was having a bad day xD I am doing better in the burg today - annihalated most of the enemies - it was 1 death per 5 kills, Martyrs - I believe what he means is it is frustrating how someone with 47 vit can run MoM and RoFaP and have more health than someone with 99 vit would normally have - it probably seems rather odd to him why this occurs. Now if someone survives my Parry with more than 1/2 hp I equip HR and Chain BS them to death now xD
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    Post by dancash1808 Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:26 pm

    Just killed a guy with 4k health ... got 800 souls
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    Dude, I cant see you losing at PvP you destroyed my score! (stupid flaskers not letting me kill the summons ARGH! >.>)
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:39 pm

    When I'm having a bad day using my 20vit build it does happen... a lot - at those points I just f**k back off to the forest.

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