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    Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:52 am

    Is it 120, 125 or 130, or is it all pretty much the same?
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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:00 am

    Is pretty much the same, but the forum's FC cap is SL 120 if you ever want to join.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:02 am

    Hmmmm, that kinda sucks, I have 3 ideal builds about halfway through, and they all pretty much require going to 130.

    If I darkwraith at 130 will I still get plenty of fights?


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by WyrmHero on Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:19 am

    Yeah, the SL range is 10% of your SL (13 for SL 130) +- 10.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:30 am

    WyrmHero wrote:Yeah, the SL range is 10% of your SL (13 for SL 130) +- 10.
    I thought you couldn't invade anybody lower level than you, and you could invade anybody higher level than you?
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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Federally on Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:08 am

    Noob-of-Artorias wrote:
    WyrmHero wrote:Yeah, the SL range is 10% of your SL (13 for SL 130) +- 10.
    I thought you couldn't invade anybody lower level than you, and you could invade anybody higher level than you?

    I believe you can invade down within normal coop range, but had no limit invading up. Based on soul rewards I'm fairly certain I've invaded down before. Also DMs can invade down based on how much sin the victim has.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by BindMind on Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:21 am

    Only Darkmoon Blades can invade people within coop range. Darkwraiths have to invade higher levels.

    I recommend trying to get down to SL120 with your builds. That allows for the most PvP. Shaving off points from END, VIT and ATT should help.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:44 pm

    Augh, I had a feeling that was the case.

    I really hate to have any vitality or endurance lower than 40, but I'll crunch numbers and see what can be sacrificed.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Shkar on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:57 pm

    Noob-of-Artorias wrote:Augh, I had a feeling that was the case.

    I really hate to have any vitality or endurance lower than 40, but I'll crunch numbers and see what can be sacrificed.

    Don't trust him, he's lying!

    Actually, I'm pretty sure he's wrong about this. I'm fairly certain I've invaded lower level people using the red eye.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Phoenix Rising on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:01 pm

    Shkar wrote:
    Noob-of-Artorias wrote:Augh, I had a feeling that was the case.

    I really hate to have any vitality or endurance lower than 40, but I'll crunch numbers and see what can be sacrificed.

    Don't trust him, he's lying!

    Actually, I'm pretty sure he's wrong about this. I'm fairly certain I've invaded lower level people using the red eye.

    Yeah its 10% of your soul level lower and no upper limit with the red eye...


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:07 pm

    I'm so confused o.o

    Hmmmmmm


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by LordRevan on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:12 pm

    You csn invade lower, i'd assume 10%.

    A few days ago I was dueling someone from the forums and he was SL120 I was SL125 and I was invading him via the Red Orb.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:15 pm

    Ok well that settles that, cool, I can take my builds to 130 without fear of losing out on much fighting....I think.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by LordRevan on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:17 pm

    Yeah, only reason you might want to stay at 120 is for forum dueling/wars/events they often have a cap of SL120.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:25 pm

    LordRevan wrote:Yeah, only reason you might want to stay at 120 is for forum dueling/wars/events they often have a cap of SL120.
    I have a separate build that's at 120, so I should be good in times of dueling.

    Thanks much for the fast answers guys.
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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by BindMind on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:28 pm

    If that's the case, you guys should update the wiki silly


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by LordRevan on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:39 pm

    Ok, I just did a quick update to the Red Eye Orb page and Darkwraith page. Let me know if there is anywhere else.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:42 pm

    I know for a fact that ive been invaded as a lower lvl by a darkmoon by a TON. he one shot my entire group of ganking phantoms at the kiln with WoGs


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by LordRevan on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:45 pm

    Wilkinson3424 wrote:I know for a fact that ive been invaded as a lower lvl by a darkmoon by a TON. he one shot my entire group of ganking phantoms at the kiln with WoGs

    Darkmoons have always been allowed to invade lower levels though, as long as you have sinned.


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:48 pm

    LordRevan wrote:
    Wilkinson3424 wrote:I know for a fact that ive been invaded as a lower lvl by a darkmoon by a TON. he one shot my entire group of ganking phantoms at the kiln with WoGs

    Darkmoons have always been allowed to invade lower levels though, as long as you have sinned.
    And by the sound of it, you'd been doing a lot of sinning...
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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Reaperfan on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:59 pm

    And if anybody's has any doubts about the "no upper limit for red orb invasions," I can first-handedly attest to the fact that my first ever invading toon, which was level 30, frequently invaded level 300 players. I started asking them their soul levels because it seemed really weird to me that level 27-33 players were wearing full giants and ninja-flipping while one-handing the BKGA while casting White Dragon Breath silly


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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Noob-of-Artorias on Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:36 pm

    Reaperfan wrote:And if anybody's has any doubts about the "no upper limit for red orb invasions," I can first-handedly attest to the fact that my first ever invading toon, which was level 30, frequently invaded level 300 players. I started asking them their soul levels because it seemed really weird to me that level 27-33 players were wearing full giants and ninja-flipping while one-handing the BKGA while casting White Dragon Breath silly
    My 130 sorceress continually invades 200's wearing full giants, flipping and using pyromancy lol.
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    Re: Best Level for PVP?

    Post by Federally on Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:50 pm

    Noob-of-Artorias wrote:Ok well that settles that, cool, I can take my builds to 130 without fear of losing out on much fighting....I think.

    A lot of PvP happens in the Burg and there are tons of invaders. So if you leave Taurus alive you can host in the burg at 130 and get constant invasions since red eyes invade up. Also you can PvP in the forest no matter what SL as there are no limits there. Just be careful which bosses you kill


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