Scimitar vs Falchion

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    Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:33 pm

    Okay guys, need your help on deciding which of these two I should use in my build to crystallise and use for PvP.

    What are the good and bad points of each? Which is better in your opinion?

    Also, don't use the idea that the scimitar is in more plentiful supply as an option as I killed the vendor for it, I'll have to farm it just like the falchion

    Thanks in advance winking


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by BindMind on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:34 pm

    I would love an answer to this as well big grin


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Carphil on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:45 pm

    I believe the falchion has a better reach, nothing more. I preffer the scimitar for looks tho. Voting Scimitar.


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:46 pm

    Is that it? though if I'm honest the low reach of the scimitar does cause problems.. not sure if it's balanced out by the looks and speed of it though.


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by FrEyes on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:07 pm

    Falchion for the win!


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:10 pm

    great, 3 votes the falchion, noone explains why :|


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by FrEyes on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:11 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:great, 3 votes the falchion, noone explains why :|
    Falchion is cooler big grin


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:13 pm

    Scimitar has nothing going for it... other than it being lighter. Scimitar does less damage than the falchion - it has a shorter range - heck, I even think it is slower.


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:14 pm

    Hrm, I have never really tested so I cannot comment. interesting that the falchion is so vastly superior


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:15 pm

    It's gonna be buffed so the miniscule damage difference isn't really important to me, also it can't be slower, it's lighter silly


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Carphil on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:17 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/6mxfzju the damage difference is 9 points. Does it really matter? And the Scimitar is lighter for 1 point. No speed difference too.


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:18 pm

    dude - it doesn't stunlock as efficiently at least - I can normally parry a 2h r1 spam with the Scimitar whereas the Falchion I find it a lot harder to do that to.


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:19 pm

    Carphil wrote: No speed difference too.

    are you sure? the weapon swing speed depends on weight usually, but until I get on I won't be able to test the swing speed. I'll show you with the painting guardian sword compared to quelaags if you like, it's much faster.

    and cheers amos, that's what I like to hear, more analysis, MOAR silly


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Ecko on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:21 pm

    TehInfamousAmos wrote:dude - it doesn't stunlock as efficiently at least - I can normally parry a 2h r1 spam with the Scimitar whereas the Falchion I find it a lot harder to do that to.
    ^This.

    I've heard a lot of people say that the falchion is "impossible" to parry.

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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by dancash1808 on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:22 pm

    Serious 0.o you have the capacity to do frame by frames? big grin lucky silly


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:22 pm

    Ecko wrote:
    TehInfamousAmos wrote:dude - it doesn't stunlock as efficiently at least - I can normally parry a 2h r1 spam with the Scimitar whereas the Falchion I find it a lot harder to do that to.
    ^This.

    I've heard a lot of people say that the falchion is "impossible" to parry.

    interestingly, martyr actually brought out a video and posted it here today that deals with the parrying of a falchion:

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t6818-new-parry-intructions-video-myths-and-clarifications-edition

    As you can see, it's VERY possible to parry, not that I parry usually though silly


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:24 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:Serious 0.o you have the capacity to do frame by frames? big grin lucky silly

    No I don't but it's actually easy to just spot. especially between weapons of more significant difference. The BSS compared to the sunlight straight sword or drake sword is a good one actually, or the Claymore/MLGS compared to Man serpent GS


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:26 pm

    Coincidentally I have seen that video bro xD He didn't also state that you can parry Shield Bashes Special Shield l2's including CRS, that you could also parry all dragon weapon specials winking


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:29 pm

    I didn't watch that far in, was just seeing the general technique for parrying, I'm not keen enough to bother with specifics silly


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Ecko on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:38 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:interestingly, martyr actually brought out a video and posted it here today that deals with the parrying of a falchion:

    http://soulswiki.forumsrpg.com/t6818-new-parry-intructions-video-myths-and-clarifications-edition

    As you can see, it's VERY possible to parry, not that I parry usually though silly
    Yes, I saw that video and combined with the fact that I've parried a Falchion before myself are why I put the word impossible in quotations, lol.

    Point is though, if a lot of people think it's too hard to parry than they likely won't even try and you'd be free (More than normal at least) to rush at them and spam light attacks.

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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:15 pm

    Falchion, where can you get those by the way, apaet from the one in Blightown? Are they really fast like a katana? I haven't done a Falchion/Curved Sword build yet.


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Serious_Much on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:18 pm

    You get them from the skellies in the Catacombs wyrm. And it's only 2.5 weight so pretty fast anyway, but curved sword 2H light attacks are really fast and can really do some damage in a short space of time.


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:22 pm

    Cool, I wonder how I could integrate one for a build. With a buff I'm sure it's deadly, I was once stunlocked by a Painting Guardian Sword buffed with DMB and died in 4 hits. :pale:


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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by Spurgun on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:24 pm

    I am planning a buffing mage for sl 80. Only enough int to use CMW, buffing +15 weapons and using elementals when the buff runs out. The falchion might be a good option.

    But is should start making builds now, i have like 5 build planned silly

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    Re: Scimitar vs Falchion

    Post by EmoElmos on Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:25 pm

    Falchion, I like it more. Plus it has a longer reach.

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