My Velka's rapier build

    Share
    avatar
    DamageCK
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1768
    Reputation : 64
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 32
    Location : NC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:16 am

    I wish the Falchion still had bleed.


    _________________
    Like a boss.
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:18 am

    DamageCK wrote:I wish the Falchion still had bleed.

    yep, we're all with you dude.


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    WhatDoesThePendantDo?
    Duke's Archivist
    Duke's Archivist

    Posts : 11501
    Reputation : 327
    Join date : 2012-04-18
    Age : 28
    Location : WPB, Florida

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:19 am

    Playing DkS first that was one of the things that surprised me about Demon's. I was hitting those laughing, fatty fireball dudes with my Crescent Flachion and then I realized he started bleeding.

    I was like... :shock:

    avatar
    Forum Pirate
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 6625
    Reputation : 232
    Join date : 2012-01-30
    Age : 26
    Location : International waters

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:59 am

    Yeah, you want fast weapon? Dex has that. You want reach? Dex has that? You want to turtle? Dex has that. You want to kill everyone in 2-4 hits unbuffed? Dex has that. You want casting speed? Dex has that. You want nearly every weapon to weight under 8lbs? Dex has that.


    _________________
    Your rules are yours
    My honor is mine.
    Perspective is everything.
    We are Exiles, and our home is Painted with the blood of trespassers.
    avatar
    WhatDoesThePendantDo?
    Duke's Archivist
    Duke's Archivist

    Posts : 11501
    Reputation : 327
    Join date : 2012-04-18
    Age : 28
    Location : WPB, Florida

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:00 am

    Strength does give you a much more varied choice in shields though. So there is that part that tips favorably to strength.

    avatar
    Forum Pirate
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 6625
    Reputation : 232
    Join date : 2012-01-30
    Age : 26
    Location : International waters

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:05 am

    Ohhhhhhhh, well that makes it balanced then. Lol.

    Just stop at 16 for the eagles if you want a great shield, otherwise you're better off with the crest, grass crest, or silver knights shield.


    _________________
    Your rules are yours
    My honor is mine.
    Perspective is everything.
    We are Exiles, and our home is Painted with the blood of trespassers.
    avatar
    WhatDoesThePendantDo?
    Duke's Archivist
    Duke's Archivist

    Posts : 11501
    Reputation : 327
    Join date : 2012-04-18
    Age : 28
    Location : WPB, Florida

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:12 am

    That Havel's Greatshield is basically the equivalent of putting up a reinforced, diamond-cut wall of protection in front of you. It's a really strong piece of defensive gear.

    avatar
    Forum Pirate
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 6625
    Reputation : 232
    Join date : 2012-01-30
    Age : 26
    Location : International waters

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:21 am

    1 shield doesn't balance the scales against the sheer number of benifits dex has. Even that shield won't stop a murakumo or great scythe deadangling you to death. Neither will it save you from a css or tempest wiping out 1000 hp. It also can't parry or stop bleed build up so some guy with a bandits knife kat or claws can just swing until you bleed out.


    _________________
    Your rules are yours
    My honor is mine.
    Perspective is everything.
    We are Exiles, and our home is Painted with the blood of trespassers.
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:55 am

    shields are useless against dead angles, damn you FROM!!!


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    DamageCK
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1768
    Reputation : 64
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 32
    Location : NC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:13 am

    Just the fact that you can't parry with a greatshield is reason enough never to use one.

    And yeah, DEX builds offer the most flexibility. Having strength effect max equip burden would be a good way to balance dex/str builds.


    _________________
    Like a boss.
    avatar
    Forum Pirate
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 6625
    Reputation : 232
    Join date : 2012-01-30
    Age : 26
    Location : International waters

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:19 am

    An Idea I liked was strength requirements for heavy armor.

    Whats that? The 3lb shield is to heavy for you to block with? Guess who can't move their arms wearing 11lb gauntlets, much less whip around a sword.


    _________________
    Your rules are yours
    My honor is mine.
    Perspective is everything.
    We are Exiles, and our home is Painted with the blood of trespassers.
    avatar
    DamageCK
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1768
    Reputation : 64
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 32
    Location : NC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:22 am

    I thought about that too. I'm really surprised they didn't implement something like that since it's fairly common in RPG's to have weight and stat reqs.


    _________________
    Like a boss.
    avatar
    Forum Pirate
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 6625
    Reputation : 232
    Join date : 2012-01-30
    Age : 26
    Location : International waters

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:25 am

    Armor was worthless in demons, I'd imagine they're still learning to balance it.


    _________________
    Your rules are yours
    My honor is mine.
    Perspective is everything.
    We are Exiles, and our home is Painted with the blood of trespassers.
    avatar
    DamageCK
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1768
    Reputation : 64
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 32
    Location : NC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:26 am

    Hah. Good point.


    _________________
    Like a boss.
    avatar
    mugenis4real
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1213
    Reputation : 77
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 24
    Location : NYC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by mugenis4real on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:34 am

    I thought they did a good job with the armor in Dark Souls, they just made the DWGR too powerful is all.
    avatar
    DamageCK
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1768
    Reputation : 64
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 32
    Location : NC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:40 am

    It makes armor balance impossible.


    _________________
    Like a boss.
    avatar
    Forum Pirate
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 6625
    Reputation : 232
    Join date : 2012-01-30
    Age : 26
    Location : International waters

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:40 am

    It is op, but the armor and rings are still unbalanced. Havels+rofap allows the same thing, full giants mom, zweihander or murakumo fast rolling is still very possible without the dwgr. With only 45 endurance too.


    _________________
    Your rules are yours
    My honor is mine.
    Perspective is everything.
    We are Exiles, and our home is Painted with the blood of trespassers.
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:27 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:It is op, but the armor and rings are still unbalanced. Havels+rofap allows the same thing, full giants mom, zweihander or murakumo fast rolling is still very possible without the dwgr. With only 45 endurance too.

    i dont know if FROM is just lazy or they dont really pay attention to the pvp side of it.


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    DamageCK
    Hollowed
    Hollowed

    Posts : 1768
    Reputation : 64
    Join date : 2012-04-15
    Age : 32
    Location : NC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:41 am

    I think they design the game for PvE and then just say eff it and keep all the mechanics the same for PvP. "Abracadabra. It's PvP now..."


    _________________
    Like a boss.
    avatar
    reim0027
    Moderator
    Moderator

    Posts : 6715
    Reputation : 381
    Join date : 2012-01-28

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by reim0027 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:29 am

    How's your build working for you, Rant?


    _________________


    PSN usernames: reim0027_2,   reim0027_3,  and reim0027_5.  Skype ID: reim0027  
    Tour of Lordran Soul Levels  //  Official Wiki Fight Club // Forest Invasion Soul Levels // Low Level Invasion Rules
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:34 am

    it's not:( lol im on a break from dark souls right now, gonna make it after 4th of july weekend which is when i plan to come back. playing wkc2 right now and its pretty good, i love the battle system.


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:36 am

    DamageCK wrote:I think they design the game for PvE and then just say eff it and keep all the mechanics the same for PvP. "Abracadabra. It's PvP now..."

    lol which is why pvp is so broken.


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    dancash1808
    Chosen Undead
    Chosen Undead

    Posts : 4318
    Reputation : 52
    Join date : 2012-03-19
    Age : 22

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:36 am

    Believe it or not I would sooner have a game built for PvE than PvP, then again a little thought into game balance couldn't have hurt ! silly


    _________________
    "Quotes seem to be popular with you people"-Acidic cook
    You should all play league with me! twisted http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=506391218392b408980226
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:26 pm

    yeah, pvp makes it have a lot more replayability but ost people tha got the game got it for pve.


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    mugenis4real
    Insomniac
    Insomniac

    Posts : 1213
    Reputation : 77
    Join date : 2012-03-14
    Age : 24
    Location : NYC

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by mugenis4real on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:52 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:It is op, but the armor and rings are still unbalanced. Havels+rofap allows the same thing, full giants mom, zweihander or murakumo fast rolling is still very possible without the dwgr. With only 45 endurance too.

    Still possible sure, but then you have to sacrifice two ring slots and about 5 points that could have been put into something other than End. Doesn't sound OP to me.

    DWGR does everything with just one ring slot.

    Sponsored content

    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:26 pm