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    My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:35 pm

    i keep hearing how good it is so i decided when i come back to dks im gonna make a build around it so here is what i came up with. i just got wkc2 and i keep thinking about dks while playing it(damn you dks!) and it doesnt help the the light axe looks just like the greataxe in dks.

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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by dancash1808 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:37 pm

    Personally If I were gona do a velka's build (love the wep never done a dedicated build for it) I would make it a low SL use it in conjunction with the MLGS and go 40 int 16 dex 16 str. the dex really doesnt add all that much sadly... (I know its helps alot for casting )
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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by reim0027 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:41 pm

    I'm liking the Velka's, but the split damage really hurts. My build's AR has about 30 less than yours, but I'm averaging 115 or so for a 1H R1.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:42 pm

    i dont really like the mlgs, im sick of greatswords and i wanted to try something new since all my main builds are str based. i have tried everything else but i just love str weapons so much. the thing is that i didnt know where to put the rest points in so i went with dex because it goves it more dmg and i can always switch to a dex weapon if the other guy casts gmb or has high mag res.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:02 pm

    I dig the build. Like any rapier, you wont get a lot of damage out of standard attacks, but thankfully you and Reim can both parry like bosses.

    I'm also thinking about a Velka's rapier build, and I'll probably end up doing something a lot like this.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:04 pm

    You can't buff your Velka's, so why not put your catalyst in your right hand?

    Otherwise, I'm with Damage, I'm digging the build. And DkS was doing the same thing to me when I took my break. No matter how hard you try, it JUST KEEPS PULLING YOU BACK IN! twisted

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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:10 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:You can't buff your Velka's, so why not put your catalyst in your right hand?

    Otherwise, I'm with Damage, I'm digging the build. And DkS was doing the same thing to me when I took my break. No matter how hard you try, it JUST KEEPS PULLING YOU BACK IN! twisted

    the cat on the left hand is because i want to cast magic if i can and keepp attacking, i dont know why but i dont like having my cat/tal in my right hand.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by dancash1808 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:11 pm

    better to cast and then stab them than cast and then have a sheild IMO, with players if they see a cata and a sheild if they get past the first spell they know you cant retaliate if they strike.
    also: you know your too tired when the phrase "parry like a boss" brings on a fit of terror at a queelag riposte (the boss I was doing at the time)
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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:15 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:better to cast and then stab them than cast and then have a sheild IMO, with players if they see a cata and a sheild if they get past the first spell they know you cant retaliate if they strike.

    i almost never block unless there's someone that's spamming r1 which i will block the first attack then parry the next, that's the only time i end up blocking i always doge and if i get hit then i take it as i need to get better at dodging, i rarely use magic anyway, i like HCSM cause it makes people more weary of attacking me.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:17 pm

    Yeah, HCSM is a nice buffer.

    And I was just asking, really just wanted to understand the thinking there. Hope you'll join us in Lordran soon enough, Rant.

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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:19 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:better to cast and then stab them than cast and then have a sheild IMO, with players if they see a cata and a sheild if they get past the first spell they know you cant retaliate if they strike.
    also: you know your too tired when the phrase "parry like a boss" brings on a fit of terror at a queelag riposte (the boss I was doing at the time)

    Hahahah.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:23 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:
    dancash1808 wrote:better to cast and then stab them than cast and then have a sheild IMO, with players if they see a cata and a sheild if they get past the first spell they know you cant retaliate if they strike.

    i almost never block unless there's someone that's spamming r1 which i will block the first attack then parry the next, that's the only time i end up blocking i always doge and if i get hit then i take it as i need to get better at dodging, i rarely use magic anyway, i like HCSM cause it makes people more weary of attacking me.

    HCSM doesn't work properly as a vader a lot of times. If you cast it and you're not within the distance needed for them to fire within about two seconds, they just fire in all directions and waste it. Really hope they fix that when the DLC releases.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:24 pm

    also the mlgs is SO easy to parry like the rest of the greatswords, the only pro i see in it is the rediculous reach.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:25 pm

    DamageCK wrote:
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    dancash1808 wrote:better to cast and then stab them than cast and then have a sheild IMO, with players if they see a cata and a sheild if they get past the first spell they know you cant retaliate if they strike.

    i almost never block unless there's someone that's spamming r1 which i will block the first attack then parry the next, that's the only time i end up blocking i always doge and if i get hit then i take it as i need to get better at dodging, i rarely use magic anyway, i like HCSM cause it makes people more weary of attacking me.

    HCSM doesn't work properly as a vader a lot of times. If you cast it and you're not within the distance needed for them to fire within about two seconds, they just fire in all directions and waste it. Really hope they fix that when the DLC releases.

    if from actually made the DLC they might but im pretty sure they wont.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:25 pm

    DamageCK wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:
    dancash1808 wrote:better to cast and then stab them than cast and then have a sheild IMO, with players if they see a cata and a sheild if they get past the first spell they know you cant retaliate if they strike.

    i almost never block unless there's someone that's spamming r1 which i will block the first attack then parry the next, that's the only time i end up blocking i always doge and if i get hit then i take it as i need to get better at dodging, i rarely use magic anyway, i like HCSM cause it makes people more weary of attacking me.

    HCSM doesn't work properly as a vader a lot of times. If you cast it and you're not within the distance needed for them to fire within about two seconds, they just fire in all directions and waste it. Really hope they fix that when the DLC releases.

    Do you know if there's actual reason that happens, or is that the game just farking up?

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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by dancash1808 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:32 pm

    the MLGS is easy to parry? Only if your silly enough to spam RB xD In my experience. I tend to roll around a lot and get hits in when they are exposed and then go for a combo once they drop to 40% ish


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:38 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:also the mlgs is SO easy to parry like the rest of the greatswords, the only pro i see in it is the rediculous reach.

    The R2 is really useful.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:41 pm

    And I'm not sure why it doesn't work as a vader. It blows though.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:48 pm

    the r2 blows imo, so easy to dodge and YES it is easy to parry specially when your opponent rolls r1, i always end up parrying greatswords like that, blind parries ftw.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by dancash1808 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:55 pm

    If you see a single parry out of your opponent you should for the rest of your battle with them pause randomly for 1/4 second or so before swinging xD its not a perfect counter but it helps.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:56 pm

    Use it unlocked like you would with fireballs.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:57 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:If you see a single parry out of your opponent you should for the rest of your battle with them pause randomly for 1/4 second or so before swinging xD its not a perfect counter but it helps.

    i do tha al the time, sometimes you get screwed if they have a parrying dagger or target shield since their parry window is bigger which is why i use the r2 whenever im using a gs and i see them try to parry once.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:04 am

    If they are running a parry dagger or a target shield I am either terrified. or I start hitting them with ranged attacks till they get impatient and sloppy depending on what build I am on.
    (interesting aside I have only been parried once using a flamberge and have had 2 people message me complaining about difficulty parrying it, seeing as it is my most used weapon I feel like it should have happened more)
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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:13 am

    I usually kick when someone spams parry. Pausing between hits can actually screw you if the other player isn't very good at setup parries. You can actually give them the parry because they blew the correct timing and did it late. It's pretty rare though. Only happened to me a couple times.


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    Re: My Velka's rapier build

    Post by RANT on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:14 am

    flamberg has to be one of the most underrated weapon in the game, i love the moveset and it hits hard PLUS it has bleed! yet another thing that pisses me off about dex weapons. str weapons got nerfed SO bad in dark souls.


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