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    Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Tarkkus on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:53 pm

    I always get one shotted with backstabs and my life is over 1200 how is this possible? Like I mean what is the right gear and weapon/stats for such a thing?


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by dancash1808 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:54 pm

    Erm, most rapiers will output that with a little effort xD


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by billy_bayonet on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:56 pm

    getting one shotted is annoying at first eventually you realise there isnt anything you can do to avoid it just shrug and move on happy you will find your pvp experience is more fun when you dont give a *** winking..


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by cloudyeki on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:58 pm

    Hornet's ring adds ALOT of crit damage. Your best to learn how backstabs really work and learning the flaws in it (however few, there are problems to those strategies)


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:59 pm

    Yeah this happens a lot, just guys who can only get a cheap, laggy hornet ringed BS to get a kill in PvP.

    You'll learn it feels good knowing you can actually win with skill moreso than ab/use of lag and a broken mechanic winking


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by dancash1808 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:59 pm

    No, but having 1.6k hp should help a bit for most although your still screwed if they have hornets and a DGA/ darkmoon blade rapier.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Serious_Much on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:59 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:No, but having 1.6k hp should help a bit for most although your still screwed if they have hornets and a DGA/ darkmoon blade rapier.

    Or if they're a dragon with a bow... *facepalm*


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Xacktastic on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:44 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:
    dancash1808 wrote:No, but having 1.6k hp should help a bit for most although your still screwed if they have hornets and a DGA/ darkmoon blade rapier.

    Or if they're a dragon with a bow... *facepalm*

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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by dancash1808 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:48 pm

    Ahh but dragons with bows have a maximum of 40 poise. stuuuuuuuuunlock winking
    although normally they like to have more than one sad party poopers.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:00 pm

    Yeah, the OHK backstab isn't uncommon. In fact, a lot of players don't do anything else, or know how. So as soon as they figure out you can counter BS, their whole plan falls apart.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Carphil on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:39 pm

    Counter BS is even worse to me, you go, BS them and get BSed at the same time, but both players take no damage. I rather die already than have a only no damage backstab fight for more than 5 minutes and someone starts to spam magic and healing...


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by DamageCK on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:54 pm

    That usually only happens to me if both players are trying to sprint in for the lock BS. Countering circle strafers works most of the time for me though.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:58 pm

    Can somebody explain the whole dragon with bow thing as I have encountered players with this setup on occasion.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by dancash1808 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:00 am

    I'll PM explaining mechanics of glitches isnt allowed.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Serious_Much on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:01 am

    No we can't explain it as it's a glitch, I reference the forum guidelines, sorry sunlight winking

    I presume it's a fault that happens due to the damage calculation equations though.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:03 am

    Oh sorry


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:05 am

    An elemental great axe will do well over 1200 without any help. The hornets ring jumps it to around 2k. The maxed dragon roar, power within, or the rtsr will make it an always instant kil even with a max health of 2753


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:11 am

    Carphil wrote:Counter BS is even worse to me, you go, BS them and get BSed at the same time, but both players take no damage. I rather die already than have a only no damage backstab fight for more than 5 minutes and someone starts to spam magic and healing...
    How is that worse? Its an avoidance technique. A way to save yourself if the manage a pivot bs. Exclusive fishing is idiotic, but instanta murdering people who bs fish is the most effective way to deal with them.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Quarik on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:49 am

    dancash1808 wrote:Erm, most rapiers will output that with a little effort xD

    My Chaos +5 Estoc with HR does 950 damage. My SLB Murakumo with HR does 2200. How do you get that much damage out of a rapier?


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:55 am

    Elemental rapiers with the HR crit for 12-1300 damage. Critmultiplier.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Quarik on Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:56 am

    Even my lightning rapier +4 with HR only does 1080.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Forum Pirate on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:02 am

    My lightning richards will do that without the crit bonus. To be fair most of my bs's are counter so it might be adding damage for that.

    rtsr, pw, dragon roar, +15 buffed, all will get you to or past 1300. At most an elemental rapier will bs for 2300 ish, with the hring, rtst, PW and the dragon roar.

    Well, depends on how the game does its math. Its 2800 the other possible way. Unsure.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:16 am

    Why would you compare an elemental rapier to a buffed Mura? Buff a +15 rapier with DMB and add hornet's. It does plenty of damage.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by Quarik on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:17 am

    They're 2 of my 3 anti-gank weapons.


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    Re: Backstab One shot!?!

    Post by DamageCK on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:18 am

    I use the great club or DGM. DGM stunlocks multiples and it'll OHK with criticals.


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