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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Extertionist on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:30 pm

    Rafiq is yes, but there is a point were you run out of mana to control what I do and then I whip out the big guns. I know how blue works, my friend has a merfolk deck that I've lost to many a time, but not anymore. There's only so many mana leaks, counters, and physic barriers you can use before you run out of your hand or run out of mana. Not to mention my friend the Grand Abolisher.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Uparkaam on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:40 pm

    Bant has Storm Crow.

    This argument has ended.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:42 pm

    +1 for you sir.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Extertionist on Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:54 pm

    Objection!!!

    Naya has Wolly Thoctar, a 5/4 that costs 3 mana. And Bant doesn't have Ajani Vengeant, one of the best planeswalkers of all time.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Uparkaam on Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:10 pm

    *cough* Mindsculptor *cough*


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Extertionist on Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:50 pm

    *cough* Lightning Bolt *cough*


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Uparkaam on Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:09 pm

    But still, Storm Crow.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:47 pm

    Okay list of red planeswalkers: Ajani Vengeant, Chandra (all variants), Koth of the Hammer, and Tibalt the Fiend-Blooded

    List of blue planeswalkers: Jace (all variants), Tamiyo, the Moon Sage, Tezzeret the Seeker, and Venser the Sojourner

    I only included those allowed by our other colors of course. I personally am much more impressed by the blue ones. I will grant you that Ajani is very good but so are Tamiyo, Jace the Mindsculptor (counter your lightming bolt), and Venser seem better. Just saying.... winking


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Extertionist on Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:56 am

    Venser's okay, he's not great but he's not bad either. Tamiyo is pretty good and so is Jace, but Ajani is also very good. Okay, blue has better planeswalkers. I would also like to point out that you forgot Nicol Bolas.

    You may have won planeswalker wise but what about ultimatums, naya's ultimatum is far better then bant's, but both are still not as good as the grixis ultimatum.

    And one final thing, red works better with green and white then blue does. White heals red burns, they go hand in hand, yin yang. Not to mention green and red are fanatical together, why do you think wolf run decks coat the top 8 listings. My point is that though countering may be good, it has more synergy with esper or grixis than with bant.

    On another note, have you tried a blue red deck, they kick a*s. I'm running a Blue/Red Delver deck right now and I've only lost one game so far.



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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:02 am

    Blue/white has a history of being ungodly together. See Stoneblade and most Delver variants for recent examples. Also Bolas includes black which neither of us can use. I dislike red and black which is why I argue Bant's case.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Extertionist on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:34 am

    I dislike black and much of red. Also I can use black but I prefer not not to as I run crumbling necropolis in my deck.

    I also ran a blue/white spirit deck and it did well but it wasn't exceptional, my blue/red is though.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:08 pm

    My white human aggro is exceptional if a bit simple. Mine functions a bit differently than many I have seen as I like to use Gideon's Lawkeeper, Gideon Jura, and some human token makers. The first two have literally won games for me and the last has accelerated me even more than normal.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:48 pm

    I played MTG before plainswalkers. The gamebreaking tools they are.

    Anyone else run a Suicide Black deck or a black/white Shutdown deck?


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:39 pm

    Nope but I have friends who won't play a deck that doesn't have black in it. One of them uses a black/blue sacrifice deck that uses Phyrexian Alter (sac a creature get mana) and Gravecrawler(1 black mana you may play from grave if you have another zombie), and Diregraf Captain (everytime a zombie dies opp loses 1 life). Sac gravecrawler for mana, use to play gravecrawler from grave and repeat process. Opp loses a life each time. There are multiple ways he can do this but this is the most common way for him.

    Viral planeswalkers aren't that game breaking with the exception of a handful of op ones. They are game changing however as they introduce a new variable to the game. My two favorite planeswalkers are Gideon Jura (White) and Venser the Sojourner (White/Blue).


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Uparkaam on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:48 pm

    Yeah, Venser is my fav too. I have a modern UW Venser bounce/control deck. I'ts a decent deck and it's fun to play. But I still like my Niv-Mizzet EDH the most.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:50 pm

    I'm working on a Rafiq of the Many EDH at the moment but it's slow going.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Extertionist on Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:42 pm

    How about 3 favorite colors. I like green, red, and blue. White's okay but I don't think it's to good, and I hate black, I think black is just to costly toi play effectively.


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by Uparkaam on Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:09 pm

    Mine are blue, red and white. Favourite colour combination is UR.


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    Post by Yarxov on Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:49 pm

    Uparkaam wrote:But still, Storm Crow.
    read that, first though:
    "Gand-dalf....Storm Crow." -Theoden King of Rohan corrupted by the venemous words of Grima Wormtongue and the influence of Saruman!


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    Re: Avatar Ideas

    Post by SunlightCrusader on Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:08 pm

    Favorite 3 colors: White, Green, Blue. In other words Bant. Red is too much burn not enough substance for my taste and black is too much of a double edged sword (not to mention I hate the creatures). Honestly though white is my true favorite. Lots of little guys to be boosted, protection, life gain; whats not to like?


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