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    Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by mugenis4real on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:01 pm

    I have recently taken to invading in the forest and its horrifying. I hate bringing up the forest because everyone and their mothers know that its not the place for "honorable" PvP, but the ganking has gotten really bad as of late. I'm running into double BKGA, double WotG, double Dragon Bow glitchers...by the time I even invade, all I see are the final moments of some poor forest hunter as he gets bent over and fu***d. I don't know how forest hunters keep their morale up, but I just want them to know that I am joining their struggle against the dark tide.

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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:08 pm

    At least you're getting a chance, the worst are the spawn camp gankers who just start swinging wildly before you're even standing all the way up. Sometimes I just blind parry these guys the second I gain control of my toon, and because they are stupidly swinging I get the parry, but not always the riposte because their little butt-buddy is there to knock me out of my counter strike.

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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by bloodpixel on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:14 pm

    Yeah it's pretty bad. I just gave up because there isn't any real point since they're almost always going to win. They aren't leaving anytime soon, considering the amount of invaders they get.


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:17 pm

    I wish FromSoft could time the invasions better so that you could get more simultaneous Darkwraith/Forest Hunter invasions to go up against the gankers. 2 v. 2 or 3 v. 3 fights in the forest would be really cool as opposed to the unfair 1 v. a ton of jerk fights we currently get. It would also add a team aspect to PvP which could be really effing fun.

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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by skarekrow13 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:21 pm

    I always invade with WoG at the ready just in case I spawn at the stairs.

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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by Carphil on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:22 pm

    Well, first rule of the forest: never bow

    Second rule of the forest: you will never fight 1 vs 1, only 2 vs 1 or 2 vs 2

    The forest can be a fun place to play ONLY if you are not worried about honor

    Imagine a special place in a city that you can commit any crime without punishment, that would be the forest


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by bloodpixel on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:24 pm

    More like actually getting rewarded for committing crimes.


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by Shungi on Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:31 pm

    Done most of my pvp in the forest and I must say I think its quite fun, but yes as Carphil said, dont expect a clean duel when invading the forest..

    Since many of them use the standard farmer weapon, BKGA, bring a rapier+hornet and parry them to death. The forest is not an honorable place, so everything goes.


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:18 pm

    In my experience the forest is about 50%/40%/10% in terms of 1v1 2v1 3v1
    bearing in mind I count situations where there are two hunters vs any number of opponents as 1v1's as for honor there is a little but alot of hosts will bow and fight honor style until they start losing. especially if your against the phantom, host will stand back and let you 1v1 till the phantom nearly dies followed by flasking or BS'ing.
    If you want to hunt then personally my advice would be:
    Never have medium roll, either flip or fast roll

    wait till the you are invading message comes up then switch out the cat ring for something more useful

    Keep something that will force them away is good, WoG is preferable if an int build HCSM can work.

    never stand still even if you cannot see the enemies. that invites arrows.

    If you cannot see how you are going to win either go for alvina's tower or the bridge to the cat zone. the cat zone if they are not killed is a great defence. If you go through alvina's get away from the stairs (buff if needed) and if they try a falling attack stun lock them either way move towards the large mushroom men by the enchanted chest as a last resort.

    Top priority is dividing the two of them really. best of luck man.


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by dwx on Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:23 pm

    I mainly invade in the forest and of course it is bad but that's what I expect. I completely expect 2v1 against two guys with Giant's or Havel's Armor and BKGA every time flipping at me with DWGR and expect TWoP and WoG as well. Sometimes it's a lot of fun. I find using magic almost a necessity since even if I get a parry in, like someone else said, there is another guy right there to hit me. Winning a melee battle against two heavily equipped players takes more skill than I have right now.


    I get some good duels in the Forest too, I ran across someone yesterday where he got invaded by three different guys and we all waited our turn to fight, he was good and ended up defeating all three of us.

    If I run up against either one or two dragon bow gankers I just crystal out.

    I waited this game and did not defeat Sif so I could be invaded myself and even the red invaders in the Forest worse than anywhere else.

    Yesterday I bow to one and get a nice lightning Avelyn shot...

    Blue invaders are always pretty good.
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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:54 pm

    honestly i dont take either side, you both suck. i sometimes go to the forest just to get fast duels, and despite clearly being by myself i will be met by two forest hunters with 12 casts of wrath of god lol. i honestly dont even get mad about that anymore, if you seriously NEED 12 casts of wrath to win a fight, that sucks and this game must not be very fun for you. ive been just doing fun invasions lately and that is by far the best online experience in dark souls imo. this game is just not meant for competitive play.
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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:01 pm

    The thing that bothers me sometimes about FHs are when I invade in the Forest (I'm usually a DW), with the intent of HELPING them to kill gankers they come after me!

    I'm always like, "Dude, WTF?" I was trying to help you kill those 3 gankers who were just waiting gang up on you mercilessly and you decide to attack me first! SMH..

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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by DarkW17 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:06 pm

    There are bad hunters who gank and bad hosts that do the same I must agree with Fruit. But the main reason I invade the forest is for a lawless free for all so I get what I expect for the most part. IMO its actually better to DMB or DW the forest so you can spawn from Sifs door and always avoid a spawn ganking that way!!

    I also agree with the fun invasions lately ill invade in full crimson robes with dual DGM's and just have fun win or lose!!

    Welcome to the struggle and happy hunting man!!


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by DarkW17 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:09 pm

    Welcome to my world Pendant as I just said I vade the forest red the most...even after i have helped a hunter shut a few worlds down...the next time he sees me he will still come after me...or ill even come flying and save is *** then he will kill the phantom and come after me not the host...like wtf is wrong with some people.


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    Post by billy_bayonet on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:13 pm

    i hosted i the forest on me onsie once a forest hunter invades he just stands there and waits, i dont attack him as he obvs is waiting for something or thinks i have hideen phantoms, then another hunter invades and they both double team me, i manage to kill them both and the first one invaded me calling me a fail and various other things, the forest is two sided, for every ganking host there is a pair of ganking hunters


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:20 pm

    The forest is indeed two sided... also having a phantom hidden for the backstab is a very common trick too, its a war of escalation
    (as for the DW's I have been killed far more often by reds than I have killed them although if they interrupt a one on one I will go after them instead of the host)


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:05 pm

    mugenis4real wrote:everyone and their mothers
    I started this. big grin


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by Spurgun on Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:35 pm

    ^My mother doesn’t play DkS. She likes watching when i kill people though.
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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:02 pm

    But, in the game you dont kill them they just come back... which means you have an alarming other hobby spurgun


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by Spurgun on Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:07 pm

    Lol. They do get a nice animation for "dying". And she likes to see that i am better than other people. silly
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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:43 pm

    "Killing makes me better than other people" okay now I am terrified silly


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by Spurgun on Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:44 pm

    Lol. Stop misunderstanding on purpose. lol!
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    Post by dancash1808 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:05 pm

    Pfft. on purpose like anything I do ever has a purpose silly


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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by Maneater_Mildred on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:09 pm

    @op the use of jesus in your thread is highly offencesive to some people, also avoiding the swear filter is not a good idea.

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    Re: Jesus...I Had No Idea...

    Post by nemesismonkey on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:57 pm

    Forest is the only place i enjoy pvp. 1v1's are boring. At least in the forest I can use any dirty trick in the book. And i can expect the same from any campers. Fair is fair as i see it.

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