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    Post by lordgodofhell Wed May 30, 2012 6:36 pm


    Oh I get it now, I am invading your world, of course. You should be the president which is why you are protected by 2 others...silly me

    oh I get it now, I was there to interrupt your quest AND attempt to make you lose all your souls and humanity. You spammed wog(anything at all) when I re invaded, like you should have

    oh wait.... I get it now, if I could have it my way I would choose to re invade you as you head back to your bloodstain. but youre hollow.

    You're the host, I get it now..
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    Post by Kaminari Wed May 30, 2012 6:40 pm

    good that you get it....because i'm not getting this...
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    Post by Uparkaam Wed May 30, 2012 6:42 pm

    Neither am I.
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    Post by dancash1808 Wed May 30, 2012 7:06 pm

    I think he is mad at hosts silly for the tactics used in pvp silly I am assuming it was sarcasm... (could be wrong xD)
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    Post by Serious_Much Wed May 30, 2012 7:09 pm

    lol, you can't blame them getting their bloodstain while their hollow silly
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    Post by lordgodofhell Wed May 30, 2012 7:18 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:I think he is mad at hosts silly for the tactics used in pvp silly I am assuming it was sarcasm... (could be wrong xD)

    ...could be right lol!

    No seriously I apologize for the wording. I am just thinking out loud about what it means to be the host as opposed to the hosts enemy.

    I guess this is not a debate thread but one where you are free to reflect your position on how you feel or think about the host/hosted balance.

    It promotes challenge, that is one thing I guarantee

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    Post by User Wed May 30, 2012 7:22 pm

    Were you in the Depths? If so, we are even. If you were there, you would understand.
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    Post by lordgodofhell Wed May 30, 2012 7:30 pm


    Is it ok if I have a maxed steel armor set. Than I use 2H claymore attacks pw buff while ninja flip. I am talking invading the church area here Bell Gargoyle fight. Is that ok when I am pretty damn close to 100& of the time facing 3 opponents? Even if one is noob the other 2 most likely are not. Would that be ok or considered griefing on my part?

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    Post by MsCherryBlossom Wed May 30, 2012 7:32 pm

    Hosts game they play how they want to, if it means killing an invader by any means with phantoms at their side it's all fair game. I have no empathy for any invader that complains about a host and their phantoms killing them. It's a risk they should accept when going into someone elses game and bothering them.
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    Post by User Wed May 30, 2012 7:52 pm

    Well, as a Gravelord, I can concur to that statement. You take risks, and you must be ready to face them without regret. Otherwise, Dark Souls may not be the game for you. Seriously, the game is designed for you to die. It says on the back of the case for god's sake.

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    Post by lordgodofhell Wed May 30, 2012 8:07 pm


    I don't think I have ever dueled a gravelord. I rarely see the signs. About as rare as Dragon Cov signs.

    I agree with the comments though, and I wonder if pvp will be changed or kept the same as they develop more games.
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    Post by User Wed May 30, 2012 8:19 pm

    A gravelord like me is a rare sight. I reside as a LvL 30 in the depths, and the other is a 150 bulb. The eye acts as a dried finger, as well as a white soapstone reversed to blue invasions to the sign maker. None in between, unfortunately, the two soul levels at the time... I deleted a lot of characters.
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    Post by lordgodofhell Wed May 30, 2012 8:24 pm

    Yea I aquired the sword and miracles in a build but did not do much gravelording with it. Although as DW I have seen a GLs powers affecting the world of someone I invaded. It was at the Church in parish.

    A lone host (licks chops) getting attacked outside by 2 Bereneke knights (one BP) I was in awe as I am a Bereneke avenger build on this particular profile.

    Always thought DW and GL were supposed to assimilate and take down the forces of good.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Wed May 30, 2012 8:28 pm

    wheneva you enter a 3v1 situation just use it as training, if you can destroy 3 people at once you should easily be able to beat a single player later on happy
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    Post by User Wed May 30, 2012 8:34 pm

    Actually, Gravelords defy the 4 player aspect of Dark Souls. I have gotten 3 blues and one red at the same time in my world... three times. I got even 4 blues, after I got indicted for invadings with a cracked orb, and i had 4 blues and a red.

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    Post by BLA1NE Wed May 30, 2012 11:19 pm

    If the host is legitimately going for the boss, then I don't care at all how they kill me. In fact, I often crystal out, or just play with them and parry as many times as I can before they eventually kill me. It's actually pretty rare that I'll kill a host who is going for the boss, especially if he is solo. If he has phantoms, I'll kill them quickly, then play around with the host until I die or crystal out.

    If the host is ganking, I don't really care either. I will try to kill him, but whether I succeed or die I really don't care. Gankers are cowards, there's nothing rewarding about killing a coward. (I really don't want this thread to turn into a discussion of whether they are cowards or not, so I'll say this now: even if their intent is to farm for souls, then they should earn those souls by fighting invaders 1v1. So please, if you want to reply to my comment, reply to anything I said other than the coward bit. If you really want to discuss that, PM me.)

    Just want to add: pretty much all I do is invade, and I receive a lot more friends requests than I do hate mail! (I rarely ever get hate mail.) That must mean something, that I get friends requests as an invader rather than hate mail, no? Praise the Sun
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    Post by MsCherryBlossom Thu May 31, 2012 12:38 am

    What do you mean by "earn those souls"?
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Thu May 31, 2012 1:57 am

    Weren't you the guy who made a thread talking about stopping the hate? lol!
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    Post by Tolvo Thu May 31, 2012 2:08 am

    Indeed Blaine, creating a friendly online environment as an invader and summon always.

    It is always funny how easily you can make friends through online play in this game, I've never really seen things like this on a console game, and really only in certain Genre's on the PC. It's wonderful.

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    Post by FrEyes Thu May 31, 2012 4:02 am

    I don't really get this post...
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    Post by User Thu May 31, 2012 9:09 am

    I only got one 'hate' mail from some one. A knight with a lightning ultra-Greatsword, I think, with wolf ring. He died by three swings from my server... A message was sent with this:

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    Post by Serious_Much Thu May 31, 2012 9:14 am

    MsCherryBlossom wrote:What do you mean by "earn those souls"?

    He obviously meant by having a fair fight, 1v3 is not what you can call in any way "fair odds" even if morally both parties have nothing wrong with it.
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    Post by Federally Thu May 31, 2012 10:35 am

    Tolvo wrote:Indeed Blaine, creating a friendly online environment as an invader and summon always.

    It is always funny how easily you can make friends through online play in this game, I've never really seen things like this on a console game, and really only in certain Genre's on the PC. It's wonderful.

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    Yeah I agree. A while ago in the forest I fought some guy 3 times, first two involved us dying embarassingly and sending some messages trashing each other, round 1 he flipped off a cliff and round 2 I died to an npc, 3rd bout was great but we both fought dirty. Match ended with me closing on the win and him snatching victory with a sick parry + riposte. I messages him "Nice Riposte!" He friended me immediately and now we suicide when we see each other to give free souls or have great duels.
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    Post by jjshowal Thu May 31, 2012 10:38 am

    you misunderstand the point. this is the true intent of PvP by the developers, by all means necessary rid the invader of your world so you may continue your quest.
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    Post by Serious_Much Thu May 31, 2012 10:48 am

    jjshowal wrote:you misunderstand the point. this is the true intent of PvP by the developers, by all means necessary rid the invader of your world so you may continue your quest.

    bingo!

    I find it funny as well we've all made these honour codes and organised PVP when really FROM want us to have no holds barred fights for your life when it's PvP silly

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