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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Shkar on Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:23 am

    Wilkinson, From has stated that they did not initially have plans to release DLC. If the pendant IS involved in the DLC, that is not it's original use, just something that they threw in to stop the constant begging emails they get (I assume).

    Also, Andre is pretty close to the Wood as well, and some believe he was the God of War. If Havel was one of Gwyn's generals, chances are he would have met the firstborn. Have we considered that Andre is the "dear friend" who locked Havel away?


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by DoughGuy on Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:28 am

    Does andre know the divine blacsmith? Because the key would have to be linked to andre, and he only says hes heard of a divine blacksmtih, not that he knows him.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:17 pm

    Well, since Havel had to be locked in by a dear friend for "his own good, of course" and since people can be turned undead, Seath may have turned him undead when he was on his way to Oolacile, then a friend, who also is a follower of Seath, locked him in because of Seath's orders. Who's Havel's friend AND a follower of Seath? *shrug*


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Eolan on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:30 pm

    Imagine if havel turned out to be the pygmy all along. With havels ring a decrepit gollum sized guy could wield that **** with ease. lol
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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:37 pm

    Pygmy is a gal


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:15 pm

    Pygmy is the collective souls of humanity in one.

    The prolouge shows many (undead?) shadowy figures rising from the Fire. It wasn't until one particular one rose that the Pygmy was mentioned. I theorize that the Pygmy is not just one individual, but that's my theory.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:30 pm

    The pygmy is a woman. Look at her in the intro really carefully.

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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by DoughGuy on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:32 pm

    ^Not sure, Ive never seen the pygmy have any womanly traits.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:33 pm

    If you look at it over and over, as soon as you see it, you can't NOT see it.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Yukon on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:12 am

    I always got the feeling that shadow of the being with the dark flame looked female, but I thought it was just me. Still I wouldn't read into it much personally. She didn't have crazy curves but in the video it really looked effeminate at the least.

    Does that mean the pygmy is a girl? Not really, or it could, but I don't think there is a single pygmy anymore.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:40 am

    Pffft. "Your ancestor." Singular, Kaathe said.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Yukon on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:54 am

    'anymore' was the keyword in that sentence. ;P

    I thought you were implying she had to be female now as well.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:57 am

    Yukon wrote:'anymore' was the keyword in that sentence. ;P

    I thought you were implying she had to be female now as well.
    I don't understand this. But I guess you mean that in the whole sentence Kaathe said, "anymore" was important? I don't know.

    And I did. Then you said that the Pygmy was more than one person. I just kinda replied to that...

    PS: I find it hard to sound serious with this avatar.. What's up with that?


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by DoughGuy on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:58 am

    ^I think he's saying that every descendent of the pygmy is now a pygmy.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Yukon on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:00 am

    I find it hard to take you serious with it as well, I'm sure its just a passing phase haha.

    I said above in my post:
    Does that mean the pygmy is a girl? Not really, or it could, but I don't think there is a single pygmy anymore.

    and the anymore was a keypoint to that sentence, not what kaathe said.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:02 am

    I'm just going to leave this fancy shmancy English language up to you guys.

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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:05 am

    The Pygmy was the fourth Lord who found the fourth soul, the Dark Soul. She is the ancestor of humanity. I like the idea of being a girl. The girls of Dark Souls have lots of humanity, so it makes sense.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:15 am

    And the part of the interview that confirms humanity is a fragment of the Dark Soul.


    1. I): Our next question. Is furtive pygmy that only appears in the prologue the main

    2. protagonist that had inheritted the lord soul in a different world?

    3. (P): Its bit of a spoiler but first of all its "pygmy" (小人 in jp can be read differently)

    4. (I): pygmy

    5. (P): "It aint written anywhere so how could I know". The image is something like a human

    6. ancestor. It found the Lord Soul and humanity is like a fragment of it. Kinda like

    7. an ancestor, so the descendants have a part of that soul.

    8. (IM): aww I see
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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:06 pm

    sooooo... havel....


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:41 pm

    Pfft. All the lore is connected. "You know havel?" "Yeah. the guy who turned undead by a friend. Wouldn't it be funny if Havel was the Pygmy all along? That'd be hilarious, but I guess the pygmy was a female originally, but now is all of its ancestors. And the pygmy created hard humanity."
    ^How this thread evolved...


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Federally on Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:49 pm

    So if Havel is trapped why is he guarding a door? Why doesn't he take off if you open the doors without killing him?


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:56 pm

    He's undead. I wish he was a talk to npc.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:58 pm

    I wonder what he would sound like.
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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:00 pm

    A rock. Obviously. lol


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:04 pm

    I think he would sound like the giant blacksmiths long lost brother.

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