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    You know Havel right?

    Post by SpecOps0 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:34 pm

    You know how Havel is closely located to Darkroot right? and how Darkroot used to be Oisioile (and yes I butchered the spelling lol! )

    I think Havel was chilling there until Seath presumably destroys... yeah..

    So he was locked in the tower by Seath, since they were like enemies to each other and Havel couldnt smash his way out because the tower had most likely magic influence...

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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Thu May 31, 2012 12:39 pm

    I speculate that Patches the Hyena locked him in there.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by SpecOps0 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:44 pm

    I dont know why Patches would lock him up. I think Patches just chills in ToG and kicks people. :3


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:45 pm

    Patches would totaly do something like that, but hes always chilling in the catacboms/ToTG because clerics are always going there. Bishop havel the rock was a Anti-Magic user and wanted sorcery off the planet, he thought it was blasphemy. im wondering if he wanted to find seath and kill him starting at Oolacile, since seath is blind im sure he wanted some mysticism to help him read his books. idk, noone knows why havel is down there. there is no evidence why he might be right outside the F***ing hydra...


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by SpecOps0 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:48 pm

    Another reason why Patches couldve done it... He kicks off Clerics right? Bishops are the almost the same as Clerics right? (as in Church ranks) And you can make the connection...

    It is surprising why Patches didnt loot Havel though.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Thu May 31, 2012 12:50 pm

    Probably tried, then saw an undead with a dragon tooth ready to smash him.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:51 pm

    yes, but i think even patches knows his limits.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:51 pm

    oh wait thats not right he messed with me.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Thu May 31, 2012 12:54 pm

    So, if you guys believe that he was after Seath, then it may have been the Channelers who locked Havel, they're known as the snatches, if I am not mistaken. While they couldn't snatch Havel (or did they?) they managed to starve him.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Eolan on Thu May 31, 2012 12:55 pm

    He was locked in there by a dear old friend. For his protection of course. Epicname bro covers this satisfactorily.
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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Thu May 31, 2012 12:56 pm

    I remember that video.

    Don't remember if he gave a name.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by SpecOps0 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:56 pm

    Possibly with magic, and Havel had no defense since he lent his spell to some guy in Ash lake. :3


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Eolan on Thu May 31, 2012 12:58 pm

    It was gwyn?
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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Thu May 31, 2012 12:59 pm

    epicnamebro he does get alot of things right. but sometimes i disagree with him. im a big dark souls lore junkie. i collect items just for the lore. the game doesint give you the lore straight forward which is what i love about it. YOU decide what happened with what the game gives you and get a new opinion with every item. and i believe.. the pendant has a HUGE story to it... it just s waiting for the DLC.. why else would nobody find its use? it been waiting for this dlc which has been planned all along. and that! my friends... has nothing to do with havel. AMEN I SAY TO YOU AMEN! (audience claps and i leave the room)


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Thu May 31, 2012 1:02 pm

    Miyazaki (spelling?) suggested to players to have the pendant as a starting gift.

    Prophecy?


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Thu May 31, 2012 1:07 pm

    now why would he suggest that. this game has been surrounded by fog ever since it came out, slowly becoming unshrouded, the pendant may be some kind of trap? it might be something artorias is looking for and will kill you to get it? you get pendants sometimes for killing people as a forest hunter. and artorias was in the forest. perhaps we are killing people, taking thier pendants. so alvina can decide if its what artorias was looking for since she was a good fri- no she is a good friend of artorias! just my theory, but pendants will have something to do with him...


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Baldor Ostarv on Thu May 31, 2012 1:17 pm

    Or maybe he was trolling.

    Doubt it.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu May 31, 2012 7:04 pm

    Havel is a high ranking bishop who turned undead. Interesting to note is that while he turned undead early, Leeroy turned undead before him (as leeroy wass the first undead) meaning Havel whasnt been in lordran as long as him. He was locked up byt a dear old friend (likely the divine blacksmith explaining his proximity to oolacile).


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Thu May 31, 2012 7:57 pm

    DoughGuy wrote:Havel is a high ranking bishop who turned undead. Interesting to note is that while he turned undead early, Leeroy turned undead before him (as leeroy wass the first undead) meaning Havel whasnt been in lordran as long as him. He was locked up byt a dear old friend (likely the divine blacksmith explaining his proximity to oolacile).
    dont mean to be a debby downer, but technicaly nito was the first undead :O


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by DoughGuy on Thu May 31, 2012 7:59 pm

    I was talkiing abou tthe first undead in the WoW.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Yukon on Thu May 31, 2012 7:59 pm

    Actually I believe Nito was the first... Dead.

    For some reason there is a distinction between dead undead (skeletons) and Undead (humans without humanity)


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Wilkinson3424 on Thu May 31, 2012 8:01 pm

    oh... well now i feel dumb XD sry doughboy. but anyway undead isint humans without humanity, its humans who are cursed with the dark signs. who are reborn after death from bonfires. humanity keeps them from losing thier mind and turning hollow.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Yukon on Thu May 31, 2012 8:02 pm

    Yukon: Boss of the downy debbers.

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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by Buggy Virus on Thu May 31, 2012 8:36 pm

    I don't think he was around during Oolacile. I believe more likely is that he traveled to lordran then lost his mind and went hollow. After doing so the Divine blacksmith lured him into the tower and locked him in there since he was too powerful to kill.


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    Re: You know Havel right?

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:21 am

    The blacksmith also put an enchantment on the door because Havel could have easily broken a wooden door


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