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    I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by LOLRagezzz on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:09 am

    Its everyones panic switch


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by Serious_Much on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:12 am

    With my faith character yeah, i use it a bit, but to mix it up let them know i have more than just a glowing lightning blade to hurt them with twisted


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by LOLRagezzz on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:15 am

    I understand functionaly why its there for BS defensive mesure but using it 5-6 times in a row because your BKGA isnt smashing through vs me is getting whack after 4 repeat duels of it.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:16 am

    I keep it in my inventory along with Great Heal in case I run into a trio of farmers at the Kiln. Otherwise it stays unused unless all the opponent does is circle, spam WoG, attack while I bow or chug estus.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by LOLRagezzz on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:18 am

    Yea I'm putting togeather a CMW build that it have it as backup for the same reasons.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by bloodpixel on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:33 am

    I use it when they're guard is down. The WoG cast time is so fast, it's ridiculous.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by Yarxov on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:47 am

    Yes, it is ridiculous. :pale:
    I've never even bought the miracle because I fear becoming what I fight against.
    And is it just me or does this go through shields?


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:51 am

    LOLRagezzz wrote:Yea I'm putting togeather a CMW build that it have it as backup for the same reasons.

    So you have high int AND fth?
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:53 am

    Yarxov wrote:Yes, it is ridiculous. :pale:
    I've never even bought the miracle because I fear becoming what I fight against.
    And is it just me or does this go through shields?

    Depends on the magic def. And it does stagger. It is powerful, if not slightly overpowered. But like I said if I'm up against farmers or cheap asshats the lock in my head comes off.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by Yarxov on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:02 am

    Slightly is an understatement. I'd say moderately.
    -It has instant cast with no cooldown
    -360 AoE
    - Magic damage (only OP when combined with the others)
    - Stagger so you can't avoid the next cast.
    It wasn't bad with the three second cooldown but instant is a bit much.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by bloodpixel on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:09 am

    Yarxov wrote:Slightly is an understatement. I'd say moderately.
    -It has instant cast with no cooldown
    -360 AoE
    - Magic damage (only OP when combined with the others)
    - Stagger so you can't avoid the next cast.
    It wasn't bad with the three second cooldown but instant is a bit much.
    Really? I found that the second and third WoG could be easily blocked/dodged.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by Yarxov on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:18 am

    When they spam it close to you even if you roll backwards you're still caught in the blast, so it's just a rinse and repeat cycle.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by Toastfacekillah on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:27 am

    I've never used it but then I haven't bothered with a faith/mage type character yet. I try to make sure I get knocked down by the 1st hit to avoid getting hammered by subsequent spammage.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JohnnyHarpoon on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:31 am

    Yeah you're the only one bro


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by RANT on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:20 am

    i have a str/fai build, i only use wog to not get backstabbed but its one of the easiest spells to dodge, if youre up against someone decent youll get bs'd 90% of the time when you use it, its not op at all, the max damage your gonna get out of it is about 600 with 50 fai, i do about 900 with a single hit of my buffed demon great machete or great club. if you have the crest shield or dark hand you barely take any damage.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:31 am

    I'm sure its not the damage by itself that makes it powerful. The speed, knockback, lack of skill/timing needed and the fact that you can wear a crown of dusk and kill with 2 shots that makes it annoying. I spawned once to a host casting TWoP, wearing crown of dusk and spammed 6 WoGs. If only I had the crest sheild on.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by RANT on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:37 am

    damn, thats just cheap. in all the time ive spent dueling ive only gone up against one guy that used twop and wog, he got too close too me so i stun locked him and killed him with 3 hits and he called me a ***** for having a lot of poise lol


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:40 am

    RantFromRant wrote:damn, thats just cheap. in all the time ive spent dueling ive only gone up against one guy that used twop and wog, he got too close too me so i stun locked him and killed him with 3 hits and he called me a ***** for having a lot of poise lol

    Did I mention that same guy was wearing full giants in addition to the crown of dusk? I was holding my Estoc+14.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by RANT on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:45 am

    JY4answer wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:damn, thats just cheap. in all the time ive spent dueling ive only gone up against one guy that used twop and wog, he got too close too me so i stun locked him and killed him with 3 hits and he called me a ***** for having a lot of poise lol

    Did I mention that same guy was wearing full giants in addition to the crown of dusk? I was holding my Estoc+14.

    if you wouldve had time to buff your estoc he wouldve been ***, that thing has some serious reach and power, try velkas's rapier, i love that thing on my pure mage.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:48 am

    RantFromRant wrote:
    JY4answer wrote:
    RantFromRant wrote:damn, thats just cheap. in all the time ive spent dueling ive only gone up against one guy that used twop and wog, he got too close too me so i stun locked him and killed him with 3 hits and he called me a ***** for having a lot of poise lol

    Did I mention that same guy was wearing full giants in addition to the crown of dusk? I was holding my Estoc+14.

    if you wouldve had time to buff your estoc he wouldve been ***, that thing has some serious reach and power, try velkas's rapier, i love that thing on my pure mage.

    If I didn't have time to move my a$$, I'm sure I didn't have time to buff.

    Also, dex/fth build. Comtemplating on respecing just to use the Moonlight Greatsword.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by ChizFreak on Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:59 am

    bloodpixel wrote:
    Yarxov wrote:Slightly is an understatement. I'd say moderately.
    -It has instant cast with no cooldown
    -360 AoE
    - Magic damage (only OP when combined with the others)
    - Stagger so you can't avoid the next cast.
    It wasn't bad with the three second cooldown but instant is a bit much.
    Really? I found that the second and third WoG could be easily blocked/dodged.

    Agreed, WoG it's EXTERMELY easy to dodge. You can dodge it by rolling toward the player casting it and then hit him, for example. Old WoG was different, I don't know if better, but totally different, maybe if they raise the casting time and increase the damage, make it unblockable (but still dodgable) it could work in DkS. But it would be pretty much the same as Gravelord Sword Dance (can't remember the exact name).


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by Yesuurd on Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:56 am

    I hoped someone spoke about this, I think all spells in DKS are ok, spamming over 18
    times would piss anyone off but whatever that is the game, stay back.

    I used to hate on WOTG but realized it's not the miracle it's the use, I have it on my
    205sl with only 3 casts and I mostly use it when 2v1 or more, in those situations
    especially 3v1 I think everything goes, unless you want to get backstabbed 90%
    of the time.

    And I also use it in panic when people chug estus or are clearly more overpowered than me and I need an advantage, I believe the host always has the advantage as he can use estus flasks whenever, appart from that I do tend to try not to use it when dueling seemingly honorable people, but then most of them panic and use it when you think
    you had one of those honorable fights going.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by strangejoy on Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:46 am

    I use it all the time when I'm up against 2 or 3 players. It's great for finishing a host off after a backstab, because it keeps their buddies at bay.


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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by JY4answer on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:10 pm

    Try rolling when you have TWoP on you.
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    Re: I must be the only pvper that does not use wog

    Post by aceluby on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:26 pm

    I'm making a char now that will utilize this spell.

    I honestly don't see why this spell gets so much hate. I've been caught in it maybe a half dozen times. It's really easy to dodge, the range is small, and it has an obvious tell that it's coming. I don't really understand all the hate... I love WoG spammers because all of the ones I've met really suck at PvP.


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