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    PVP Damage Resistence?

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    Post by GkMrBane Mon May 21, 2012 12:18 pm

    So im in the forest right and trying to get a Medium roll build feel and I have some great defense thats working as if I had 1800 health so im wondering what the blue tear stone ring could do to defenses as far alowing you to tank one more hit when nessecary when your health is that low.

    As side note I equiped blue tear sone ring with ring of steel and I had between 650 slash resist and 700 I cant remember right now since it was 4 in the morning and im at work so I cant test but if any one else can confirm Id be thankful.



    Edit my bad for got to post link. sad www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=208214752
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    Post by billy_bayonet Wed May 23, 2012 4:50 pm

    ive found the blue tearstone ring doesnt have quite the same effects on your defense that red tearstone has on your AR, IMO youd be better of having the red ring on and hoping to get that last killer shot,
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed May 23, 2012 5:03 pm

    A lot of people undereatimate the power of the blue tearstone. It keeps you from getting killed. Have you guys ever heard of 2nd chance? Thats the blue tearstone. Red tearstone may not even activate and u can die. But blue tearstone ALWAYS activates. Whats important about the red tearstone is what happens after it activates, but the blue's strength is in the fact that it DOES activate. And stops damage indefinitely.
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    Post by Kaminari Wed May 23, 2012 5:20 pm

    JoeBroski09 wrote:A lot of people undereatimate the power of the blue tearstone. It keeps you from getting killed. Have you guys ever heard of 2nd chance? Thats the blue tearstone. Red tearstone may not even activate and u can die. But blue tearstone ALWAYS activates. Whats important about the red tearstone is what happens after it activates, but the blue's strength is in the fact that it DOES activate. And stops damage indefinitely.

    this means that you can't get oneshotted with that ring?
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    Post by Wade_Wilson Wed May 23, 2012 5:28 pm

    It's not really useful since damage resistance suffers from diminishing returns. Stacking damage works: stacking defence doesn't.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed May 23, 2012 5:31 pm

    Its very, VERY hard. They'd have to do at least 1.5x your health. And stacking defense does work. The ring takes all your defense and puts it up 2x. Stopping most damage.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed May 23, 2012 5:32 pm

    Someone should do tests.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Wed May 23, 2012 5:33 pm

    ive had someone kill me while waering that ring, it doesnt do anything to your defense until it activates and if your killed on one shot it wont activate
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    Post by GkMrBane Wed May 23, 2012 5:42 pm

    but the ring 1.5's you resistence the moment the 20% health line is crossed so for tanks I think it would help with stoping those 1 hit kills from hornet ring users.

    I wonder if it takes effect on hits after 20% is crossed, after or on the whole attack that is supposed to break that 20% barrier.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Wed May 23, 2012 5:54 pm

    it takes effect after you take teh damage it wont negate damage that has allready been done
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed May 23, 2012 6:32 pm

    It goes into effect AS you take the damage. I used to use that ring like a mofo
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed May 23, 2012 9:07 pm

    It's great for high defense characters because that's where it'll make a difference. ya, you won't get 1-shot as easy as a high defense character, but it may keep a bs from killing you. it may not always, but if you've got high defense *whistle* it'll add SO much defense at that last 20% of health that it'd be hard to get you to die.
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    Post by BoilerFan8472 Wed May 23, 2012 9:54 pm

    I prefer the red tearstone over the blue, mostly because when I get that low on health the other person almost always gets super aggresive and my tank build can take a lot but when the enemy is using a lightning weapon or something its much more effective to stagger them with a high damaging weapon and go to town on them than to block them and take damage through the shield
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed May 23, 2012 10:03 pm

    BoilerFan8472 wrote:I prefer the red tearstone over the blue, mostly because when I get that low on health the other person almost always gets super aggresive and my tank build can take a lot but when the enemy is using a lightning weapon or something its much more effective to stagger them with a high damaging weapon and go to town on them than to block them and take damage through the shield
    i guess it would depend on if you're using havel's greatshield or not. You dont take much damage through the shield haha!
    I guess you wont know which one you like unless you try both of them out, OP.

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