Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

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    Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by purpleworrior on Wed May 16, 2012 3:37 pm

    okay, hear me out. Once the lordvessel is placed at firelink alter, regardless of which serpent or if you used a serpant at all, three orange mists dissapear. One to gravelord nito, one to the bed of chaos, one to dukes archives. However, it is possible to reach the bed of choas without the lordvessel, by joining the chaos covenant and reaching level 2. In this case, the lordvessel is only required to access gravelord nito and dukes archives. is it not possible to somehow reach either nito or seath without the lordvessel? it seems strange that you can pretty much access any boss in the game from the start, apart from these two? if it is possible, it may lead to some alternate ending?.... who knows, i doubt it is possible but its just an idea. if the choas covenant gets you a shortcut to a later boss maybe some other covenents do aswell? and what is even more strange is that via the gravelord covenent you can visit nito before you have the lordvessel, just cant defeat him. maybe theres an item you can wear or something of the sort that would trigger the boss battle early? that would leave only the dukes archives, but that places seems pretty impenetrable without the lordvessel. any ideas?
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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by mugenis4real on Wed May 16, 2012 3:47 pm

    Not possible. I tried. There's an orange fog blocking the shortcut :|
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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by ChizFreak on Wed May 16, 2012 3:47 pm

    I'm pretty sure no. I didn't know you could use the shortcut of the Chaos Covenant to get to Bed of Chaos before you place the Lordvessel, I though that a yellow fog gate appears in the shortcut if you open it?

    I'm pretty sure there is NO WAY to get to Seath, though there maybe a way to fight Nito. After all, the Lordvessel only blocks the tiny path that leads to Nito, but ALL the rest of Tomb of Giants is not locked.


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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by purpleworrior on Wed May 16, 2012 3:53 pm

    ah i didnt know if the fog would be there or not, i assumed it wouldnt be but if youve seen it there then nevermind. if the fog wasnt there at the shortcut before you placed the lorvessel i was going to assume it would alow you to deeat b.o.c because queelana asks you too, but i guess you do need the lordvessel. damn!
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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by Serious_Much on Wed May 16, 2012 4:03 pm

    Always the orange wall of annoyance blocking the duke's archives, area after the tomb and just before demon firesage


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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by billy_bayonet on Wed May 16, 2012 4:07 pm

    there is one MAJOR flaw in your planapart from the obvious impossiblnessssssss of it , say you forget homeword bones and you end up killing nito........without getting the lordvessel how you gonna warp? use the darksign and loose all your humanity and souls?


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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by purpleworrior on Wed May 16, 2012 5:29 pm

    im pretty sure you get a homeward bone when you defeat nito so it would be fine, nevertheless we know the plan cannot work.

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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by User on Wed May 16, 2012 5:32 pm

    You do not get homeward from the four soul vessel bosses.

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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by Spurgun on Wed May 16, 2012 5:32 pm

    ^ probably because a bonfire always appears after you kill them so you can just warp away.

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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by User on Wed May 16, 2012 5:33 pm

    Even killing the four King's does not give a homeward... You don't even need a vessel, and you can warp from the abyss bonfire.

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    Re: Is it possible to defeat all bosses without the lordvessel?

    Post by purpleworrior on Wed May 16, 2012 5:43 pm

    ah okay i guess if you did get down there and defeat him somehow youd be screwed anyway.... nevermind, was only a though. the mystery searching continues!

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