A note on enchanted weapons

    Share
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed May 16, 2012 3:57 am

    I'm currently playing with a Dex/Faith build that focuses on Darkmoon Blade for fighting. When the buff runs out, I usually have a DSS or a Divine Claymore as a back up. So I thought, are enchanted weapons good as back up weapons for hybrid builds? I did some damage tests on reim with 4 versions of the Claymore. The Dex is 40 and 50 Faith, 16 minimum Str, 1 handed R1 swing.


    Claymore+15 = 187 damage :/
    Lightning Claymore+5 = 185 damage
    Occult Claymore+5 = 204 damage
    Divine Claymore+10 = 210 damage

    So after these tests enchanted weapons really depends on the stats of your build and the weapon you want to use. I say these weapons need a buff in damage because many points are spent in faith/int to just do a tiny damage difference compared to their normal and elemental counterparts. Also there are weapons that are great being enchanted or elemental, like the claymore, which has low scaling. Enchanted weapons are perfect for pure faith or int builds which use buffs for their low AR or low scaling physical weapons.


    Last edited by WyrmHero on Wed May 16, 2012 2:08 pm; edited 1 time in total


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    FattyOfDoom
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 510
    Reputation : 12
    Join date : 2012-05-01
    Age : 42
    Location : Scotland YEEEAH

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Wed May 16, 2012 4:24 am

    If they do get a buff then it will also lead to more.... Unique builds big grin
    FattyOfDoom approves!
    cheers


    _________________
    Billy-Bayonet wrote:I'll Dark Lord your *** so hard, you'll walk like John Wayne for a month!


    Acidic Cook wrote:Ejaculation of the Gods in front of a woman is considered dishonourable... you use Emit Force to make her Ejaculate; That is considered honourable.


    PSN: Helmethed, add me if you wish to duel.
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed May 16, 2012 4:41 am

    Actually this makes me want to do a pure mage build with 50 Vit, 50 Int, minimum End for equipload and minimum stats for a good enchanted weapon. Also could use the Moonlight Horn and Greatsword....


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed May 16, 2012 4:42 am

    The only thing that bothers me is the low Dex........


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    russiannightmare
    Addicted
    Addicted

    Posts : 137
    Reputation : 3
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Location : Where ever the guilty troll

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by russiannightmare on Wed May 16, 2012 7:40 am

    WyrmHero wrote:Actually this makes me want to do a pure mage build with 50 Vit, 50 Int, minimum End for equipload and minimum stats for a good enchanted weapon. Also could use the Moonlight Horn and Greatsword....

    I have a battle mage that I bring out to rumble with from time to time with the MLGS and horn which make a great one two combo. add velkas rapier which is under rated in my opinion and you can really wreck someone's day.
    avatar
    Delvanoc
    Obsessed
    Obsessed

    Posts : 347
    Reputation : 20
    Join date : 2012-03-17
    Age : 34
    Location : Florida

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by Delvanoc on Wed May 16, 2012 10:05 am

    I actually disagree that they need a buff. Reason for my disagreement is that with stats in faith and intellect you are able to use spells and miracles to augment your fighting. If these weapons did as much as a str or dex built character, then why would anybody ever play a pure melee build?


    _________________
    PSN: Delvanoc
    avatar
    Serious_Much
    Moderator Trainee
    Moderator Trainee

    Posts : 14641
    Reputation : 287
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 25
    Location : The Dark Side of the Moon

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by Serious_Much on Wed May 16, 2012 10:16 am

    what the hell is a light claymore +10...?

    You'll have to use buffs with a faith/dex build to get significant damage, as the unique weapons for faith- grant and DSS, are not useable and not very powerful respectively.

    just a note to add, the claymore is one of the best faith scaling weapons when upgraded to divine/occult, I'm surprised they don't do much damage at 50 faith.. But you sure as hell know that DMB claymore with +2 covenant rank will be crazy powerful.


    Last edited by Serious_Much on Wed May 16, 2012 10:19 am; edited 1 time in total


    _________________
    PSN and other stuff:
    PSN: HolyPK9 "You are free to sever the chains of fate that bind you"

    Sage Andarta, Founder of the Crystal Seekers; The Noble Knights

    Principal GremSay of the Karmatic Gremlin Gang

    Moderator of the Wiki Chatroom- Come join the fun  cheers

    PRAISE. THE. SUN. lol!
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by RANT on Wed May 16, 2012 10:19 am

    did you try the great scythe?


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    RANT
    Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden

    Posts : 7779
    Reputation : 268
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Location : Winterfell

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by RANT on Wed May 16, 2012 10:21 am

    ZeppelinMetal wrote:I actually disagree that they need a buff. Reason for my disagreement is that with stats in faith and intellect you are able to use spells and miracles to augment your fighting. If these weapons did as much as a str or dex built character, then why would anybody ever play a pure melee build?

    ioni demon's souls they were awesome and a lot of people still made pure str builds, they suck right now and if they got a buff you would see more pure builds.


    _________________
    Night gathers, and now my watch begins.
    I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls, I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realm of men.
    I pledge my life and honor to the knight's watch for this night and all the nights to come.
    avatar
    GkMrBane
    Caffeinated
    Caffeinated

    Posts : 941
    Reputation : 22
    Join date : 2012-04-19
    Location : In the forest warming up on Covi's

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by GkMrBane on Wed May 16, 2012 11:31 am

    but honestly how many of you believe that FROM will push out another update.


    _________________
    Forum Pirate wrote:One can learn to like having nails driven through their knees. Doesn't mean they'll enjoy learning.


    "Plain Childish" said the small man, to which the much bigger man said "it wont seem so childish when it happens to you"

    The Silver Big hat SL 200 (anti-mage, mage) http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=299020992731779294

    And his little mage hunting brother SL100 http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=391801110669564162

    Move Like a Rapier Sting like a claymore http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=329792397855464820

    If the cost of keeping a thread on topic is a down vote then I will make that sacrifice.
    avatar
    Serious_Much
    Moderator Trainee
    Moderator Trainee

    Posts : 14641
    Reputation : 287
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 25
    Location : The Dark Side of the Moon

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by Serious_Much on Wed May 16, 2012 12:03 pm

    GkMrBane wrote:but honestly how many of you believe that FROM will push out another update.

    I don't think they will now, if another update comes, it'll be bundled in with the DLC when/if it's released.


    _________________
    PSN and other stuff:
    PSN: HolyPK9 "You are free to sever the chains of fate that bind you"

    Sage Andarta, Founder of the Crystal Seekers; The Noble Knights

    Principal GremSay of the Karmatic Gremlin Gang

    Moderator of the Wiki Chatroom- Come join the fun  cheers

    PRAISE. THE. SUN. lol!
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed May 16, 2012 2:05 pm

    Serious the Light Claymore is a Lightning Claymore LOL, it's +5 my bad...


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    Serious_Much
    Moderator Trainee
    Moderator Trainee

    Posts : 14641
    Reputation : 287
    Join date : 2012-01-17
    Age : 25
    Location : The Dark Side of the Moon

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by Serious_Much on Wed May 16, 2012 2:30 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Serious the Light Claymore is a Lightning Claymore LOL, it's +5 my bad...

    the fact you put +10 made me confused about if it was lightning or not silly

    Also, the fact it's that weak compared to occult and divine is... kinda good.


    _________________
    PSN and other stuff:
    PSN: HolyPK9 "You are free to sever the chains of fate that bind you"

    Sage Andarta, Founder of the Crystal Seekers; The Noble Knights

    Principal GremSay of the Karmatic Gremlin Gang

    Moderator of the Wiki Chatroom- Come join the fun  cheers

    PRAISE. THE. SUN. lol!
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by WyrmHero on Wed May 16, 2012 3:45 pm

    Yeah you could say that enchanted weapons are almost the same as their elemental counterparts, but this makes everyone to prefer elemental over enchanted because of the sacrifice in faith or int. To get maximum AR I think you need 50 faith or int.


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant

    Lyve

    Posts : 2
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2012-05-17

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by Lyve on Thu May 17, 2012 1:29 am

    Good info! happy

    Its got me wondering what the defense stats of your opponent were. I know I usually choose lightning weapons over magic based damage due to Ltng Defense being the more difficult to raise armor-wise, and especially against a high faith build since it also raises your magic defense.

    As far as AR goes, I do know that with 50 int & 40 str that a +10 Magic Claymore actually has higher AR than a +5 Ltng Claymore, which I thought was cool happy although I don't think it was by very much.

    Never did any damage comparisons between the two, but again it would boil down to the target's physical, Ltng, and magic defense stats to get an accurate comparison.
    avatar
    Entergluttony
    Casual
    Casual

    Posts : 35
    Reputation : 1
    Join date : 2012-04-23
    Age : 25

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by Entergluttony on Thu May 17, 2012 2:17 am

    does someone know if a devine or a +15 claymore with dmb is stronger when my str and dex are both at 16
    avatar
    WyrmHero
    Lordvessel
    Lordvessel

    Posts : 8742
    Reputation : 221
    Join date : 2012-02-16
    Age : 29
    Location : The Painted World

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by WyrmHero on Thu May 17, 2012 2:35 am

    He was wearing Giants Chest, along with Giants Gaunts and I think Black Iron Leggings. SL 120.

    @Entergluttony The +15 with DMB will win over the Divine.


    _________________
    PSN: WyrmHero1945

    Dedicated Blade of the Darkmoon.
    Chaos Legion Str weapons covenant
    avatar
    FruitPunchNinja
    Revived
    Revived

    Posts : 2770
    Reputation : 106
    Join date : 2012-03-12
    Age : 28
    Location : East Coast , USA

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by FruitPunchNinja on Thu May 17, 2012 12:55 pm

    if my stats allow it i personally prefer to use enchanted/magic or devine/occult. those fire/lightning sound efx start to get burned into your brain..... :drunken:

    Sponsored content

    Re: A note on enchanted weapons

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:22 pm