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    I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Tue May 15, 2012 2:36 am

    Testing out some new strategies for my upcoming master build in Anor Londo when I have this Darkwraith invade me. I have TWoP on tab for part of this strategie which goes something like "my Gravelord likes to incapacitate the enemy before finishing/torturing them while they are helpless".

    So I'm hanging out and he comes in. I parry his first combo and he runs off to heal and hides behind mobs until I clear out the main hall before O&S.

    So I see him running around up by the balcony so I hide behind a pillar and wait for him to come down. I throw down the TWoP and ensnare him. Knowing the behavior of players under the effects of TWoP (having been a victim of it myself) I know he's going to blindly swing his Claymore to try to stun me to death.

    I evade the 1st one and Parry the next killing him.

    He sent me hate for time saying TWoP is a fools tool. I know its annoying but its not that bad if you know how to counter it. I didnt even BS him, which he said I did in the message, I replied that it was a parry and almost a blind one too.

    Silence....

    Was this as bad a move as I thought. I think NOT!


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by RANT on Tue May 15, 2012 3:22 am

    he invaded you. that's all i have to say.


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by Federally on Tue May 15, 2012 3:26 am

    And as a Darkwraith I'm sure that guy has never backstabbed a host fighting a mob who was only human so he could summon a phantom to help him with a boss.

    Forceful invasions don't have rules, you had every right to BS him and you were nice enough to go for the more difficult Riposte. Rules of dueling only apply for invited fights through RSS etc. How does he know you're not just some poor guy who's died to O&S a million times? Invaders should expect to get treated badly because usually they're ruining someone's day. Lucky for that guy you were nice, yet he's too dumb to see it.


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by White Mamba on Tue May 15, 2012 4:04 am

    If you get hate mail from an invader, you have done your job well. Good work
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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by DoughGuy on Tue May 15, 2012 4:07 am

    Twop just has a bad name due to its use of BSing people. If you use it to attack normally or run away (of course you shouldnt heal but oh well) then I have no problem with its use.


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Tue May 15, 2012 4:15 am

    Yeah but you should show respect to invaders they are as much in the right as anyone needing 2 phantoms to clear O&S or to get through New Londo


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by Federally on Tue May 15, 2012 4:20 am

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:Yeah but you should show respect to invaders they are as much in the right as anyone needing 2 phantoms to clear O&S or to get through New Londo

    Depends what your definition of respect is. Do I taunt them and act like a ****? No. But if I just struggled to clear an area, have a good amount of souls and humanity and I'm trying nor to die while reaching the boss gate you really think I'm gonna have an honorable duel with some invader? Hell no!


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by DoughGuy on Tue May 15, 2012 4:21 am

    If they bow, have an honourable duel. if they rush you they are playing to win so just kick their asses.


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by Quarik on Tue May 15, 2012 4:32 am

    The nature of a fight is defined by the circumstances surrounding it. Wait... that sounded intelligent! Herp derp xbox r betar!

    In all seriousness though, if you're human you're inviting invasions. That doesn't give either party a right to be a douche, but the host usually has more at stake and an easier time of it (notable exceptions are limited casts for weapon buffs and uncleared enemies), because of Estus and summoned phantoms.

    If one of my enemies heals, runs from the designated fighting area, uses TWoP, or ganks, I will do my very best to crush them, but otherwise I try to be nice and detoxify the community a bit.


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by ViralEnsign_ on Tue May 15, 2012 4:53 am

    I dont like all the invader hate. Its all well and good for you when you kill them cheaply after clearing and area. COOL. But when you invade its a different story if they use all the lame *** moves in the book then you'd be the one who is victim to all that sort of bollocks.

    Not a dig at anyone but thats how I look at it. From what I gather here it wasnt as bad as the guy made it out to be because I didnt chain BS him.


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    [11:10:14 p.m.] Robb "the Ensign_": FATALITY!
    [11:10:16 p.m.] ◥▶_◀◤ TehInfamousAmos: AHAHAHAHAHAHA
    [11:10:19 p.m.] Tolvo: You want to see sexual tension.
    [11:10:20 p.m.] ◥▶_◀◤ TehInfamousAmos: BEASTIALITY
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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by Quarik on Tue May 15, 2012 4:55 am

    Not sure if your post was directed at me, but you were in the right. He healed, destroy him.


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by Delvanoc on Tue May 15, 2012 9:34 am

    Imo, when I invade, I expect the host to do everything in thier power to destroy me. I am the one invading his/her home. I do not get upset if they heal or do anything cheap. I on the other hand will bring an honorable role into my invasions. I don't bs, no healing, and I wait till they clear mobs for the fight if that is what they are doing. Typical bow and what not.
    but as stated before, I always expect the host to do it all. After all, I lose nothing if I lose while invading.
    So, you were completely in the right and gj to for destroying him while using TWoP in its intended purpose.


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by billy_bayonet on Tue May 15, 2012 9:56 am

    i have the same rules for invasions that i have fore invading and dueling, just because someone else will not follow my rules doesnt mean i should give up on honour , i will neva intentionally backstab, if someone annoys me i will parry there attacks and then do nothing, even if i die by "cheap" tactics of another play i know i havnt fallen down the path of dishonour so i ask you as a community who really is the victor?


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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by Majikero07 on Tue May 15, 2012 10:25 am

    Wow. You role-played that well. Catching your prey in the web, obviously it will panic, that's when you strike. It feels more of a terror attack to make the opponent panic and making them predictable, thus the parry.

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    Re: I don't think this was a **** move....

    Post by Lyve on Thu May 17, 2012 2:51 am

    I never use it but I personally don't mind if someone tries to cast TWoP in a 1v1 or even a 2v1. It's cast time is god-awful and it only lasts 15 seconds. I'll either BS them while they are trying to cast it or get out of its range until it fades.

    Its the gang banging campers that are already waiting at my spawn point and cast it as I'm entering their world leaving me with an absolute zEr0% chance of evading it cause I can't frickin move until I'm completely out of the animation :x
    That my friend is a "Dee-Eye-See-Kay" move!

    What you are describing sounds fair and square in my book, but hey, thats just me.

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