Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

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    Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun May 13, 2012 6:10 am

    These ghosts carry babies, if you look closely you can see them. The lightning seems to come from these babies. Interesting connection that I made is that I noticed the small drakes from the valley shoot a lightning breath too. Another thing, the Large Flame Ember was once in New Londo, and was used in some kind of rite, which the Dragon Torso Stone also was used in an ancient rite. That's not all, thanks to Acid's wonderful research, he noticed that the statues at the Abyss fog gate and the large one at the center of Painted World are exactly the same (a woman with a child). This maybe ties the people of New Londo to the ones trapped at Painted World.

    So I want you guys to give me your opinions and speculations about this, who were this people??? Were they experimenting with Dragons? Is the secret rite of Velka, the one of the Large Flame Ember, the one of the Server and the one of the Dragons the same????? Do you know that the Dragons were weak against lightning, fire and toxic (don't know if Seath used magic to defeat them, as stone is highly resistant to it) and that Vow of Silence (Velka's miracle) is designed to nullify them??? Is this the mysterious rite? What about the rite of kindling?


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by Chaos Spectre on Sun May 13, 2012 7:59 am

    Someone theorized that in velka's act of breaking the age of fire, she joined the dragons, lead new londo, and tried to create a cross-breed race of dragon humans. It was guessed that Kaathe, disliking the existance of dragons ever coming back (I think the serpents are afraid of dragons) called and corrupted the four kings and their knights, creating the darkwraiths. Velka was feeding new londo humanity, being the first firekeeper. The darkwraiths were stealing it and becoming stronger. Before it got out of hand, the three sealers flooded new londo, and left the Darkwraiths to die, along with new londo citizens itself.


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun May 13, 2012 8:04 am

    Honestly I find it more likely that Velka joined jioned Kaathe and orrupted the 4 kings herself.
    A theory I heard was that the civillians of new londo ewre breeding with dragons/drakes (somehow). The babies are the first (and last) generation of the half breeds..


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun May 13, 2012 11:13 am

    Yeah those are my crazy theories...but that is massive speculation because we really don't know for sure if Velka was a firekeeper or was working with dragons. So I'm trying to connect the dots with the basics....


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun May 13, 2012 11:14 am

    Yeah I was going to attempt to do a pendant connection a while back but with my covenant starting to take off its hard to get any research done.


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by PlasticandRage on Sun May 13, 2012 2:09 pm

    Isn't it said somewhere that New Londo was a very magic oriented city? I could very easily be wrong, but I feel like I remember hearing/reading that somewhere


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by User on Sun May 13, 2012 2:09 pm

    Vella is not with Kaathe. Evidence that shows it are two faction: the somewhat attached witch Beatrix, and the red safes. Look at the mask of the sealer. What do you see?

    Black hair, symbol of the black haired witch Velka, and a beak like mask... Similar to a crow.
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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by WyrmHero on Sun May 13, 2012 2:26 pm

    Wait is or isn't? The mask of the sealer has black hair????


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by Quarik on Sun May 13, 2012 2:36 pm

    Acidic_Cook wrote:Vella is not with Kaathe. Evidence that shows it are two faction: the somewhat attached witch Beatrix, and the red safes. Look at the mask of the sealer. What do you see?

    Black hair, symbol of the black haired witch Velka, and a beak like mask... Similar to a crow.

    Slightly OT, but the designs for the Sealer mask and the SK/BK Shields are very similar.


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by User on Sun May 13, 2012 2:43 pm

    Is not with Kaathe. Past ideals before said otherwise with speculation, but other facts say no to that departure.
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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun May 13, 2012 7:43 pm

    Could you explain these facts please Acidic?


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by User on Sun May 13, 2012 7:53 pm

    When I can. I want mire information, before I return once again to my humble cave for me to reside in. When I return to my thread once more, I will not stop with what I have found. Just need to recheck and find enough. Like I said, it will be soon.
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    Post by Chaos Spectre on Sun May 13, 2012 10:07 pm

    Acidic_Cook wrote:When I can. I want mire information, before I return once again to my humble cave for me to reside in. When I return to my thread once more, I will not stop with what I have found. Just need to recheck and find enough. Like I said, it will be soon.

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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by JoeBroski09 on Sun May 13, 2012 10:55 pm

    Idt velka was in cahoots with kaathe. She is all about righeousness. She evne was going to have a covenant a lot like the darkmoon. If it was going to be alongside the darkmoon, then id imagion that velka would hunt the darkwraiths. Thats how i view velka.


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun May 13, 2012 11:00 pm

    i will post my theory after I have lunch Joe.


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    Post by JoeBroski09 on Sun May 13, 2012 11:09 pm

    Ooooh. Looking forward to it XD


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by DoughGuy on Sun May 13, 2012 11:17 pm

    So Velka was the first fierkeeper. She was happy at her job until one day the god of war came along and exstinguished the first flame. Seeing as how she was tied to it much of her poewr was lost when the first flame went out. Thus instead if trying to relight it she turned to the abyss and drew power from it, becoming the black haired witch, rogue goddess of sin. By aligning herself with the dark she turned herself against the normal gods who needed the fire.


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    Post by JoeBroski09 on Sun May 13, 2012 11:27 pm

    Hmmm. How does this tie to her being the punisher of sins? I need to watch that ENB episode again to see where he got that from...

    "The goddess of Sin, Velka, oversees this list of the guilty, who have disrespected the Gods or their covenants, and shall one day face the wrath of the Blades of the Darkmoon."

    Theeere it is. Book of the guilty. How does this tie in with your theory? Im curious XD


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by WyrmHero on Mon May 14, 2012 3:01 am

    Another rite I found, that I think it doesn't make sense... The Church (Way of White for sure) used the Large Divine Ember for their secret rites. When you give the ember to Andre he mentions it too. I have no idea nor can't find any connection to these secret rites, the only one that's connected to the Church is the Rite of Kindling. Maybe the rites from the dragon apostles too?


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by FattyOfDoom on Mon May 14, 2012 4:27 am

    Here is how I think it happened. Velka was the firekeeper, pygmy, Priscilla's mother and wife of gywn.(?)Since she was the "forgetton" pygmy, Gywn forgot about her. Velka, fueled with rage, went to New Londo and promised Kaathe an army. She then created a cross-breed between dragons and humans, using the dragon scales on the Drakes. Kaathe disliked this and the corrupted the 4 kings and his knights, but the sealers then flooded the place. Velka escaped, went to Ash Lake, and started testing again. The everlasting dragon has a bonfire yes? Has black hair? And also, all bonfie keepers are females with disabilities, (can't speak,see or is disgusting) so the dragon seems random...... Unless it is Velka, a female human turned dragon(disabilty) and is trying to mass an army against Gywn with cross-breads!


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by WyrmHero on Tue May 15, 2012 4:24 am

    Guys check this one. The Dragon Eye mentions the Gods are vulnerable beings. Guess what are they vulnerable to?


    An art of the transcendent apostles who pray
    to the ancient dragons. To be alive is to be
    vulnerable, and the fiery Gods are no
    exception. The apostles seek another plane
    of existence, which transcends life
    .

    And check this one, the Effigy Shield:


    In an ill-fated plot to destroy the very
    gods, the followers of the occult once
    attempted to steal the power of
    Gravelord Nito, the first of the dead.



    You want a combination of the too? Check out the scythe of my beautiful Queen:


    Even the Gods feared Priscilla's lifehunt
    ability, and in the hands of a mortal, its
    power will turn upon its wielder.



    Wait you want more? Priscilla's Dagger has occult auxiliary damage. Nito has the Large Divine Ember, used in ancient rites. Why not the Occult Ember?


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by DoughGuy on Tue May 15, 2012 4:26 am

    @OP You should read Acidics new post if you havent. What I got from it was that the banshees rrepresent Velka and the God of War.


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    Re: Why do the female Ghosts shoot lightning spells???

    Post by Spurgun on Tue May 15, 2012 10:50 am

    DoughGuy wrote:@OP You should read Acidics new post if you havent. What I got from it was that the banshees rrepresent Velka and the God of War.
    i read it as that the banshees represent velka and the child that they hold represent the god of war

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