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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by Shkar on Wed May 09, 2012 2:12 am

    Honestly, I think the only change you could honestly expect to get in this game BS wise is either a ring that reduces backstab damage, or them reducing the critical damage on Large weapons. Asking them to go through and revamp the code may not even be possible, depending on how they set-up the game.


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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by sunbro on Wed May 09, 2012 2:39 am

    How about option C
    wearing a shield on you're back !!!
    Allways found it strange that someone with a bandits knife could pierce a havels shield :x


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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by Shkar on Wed May 09, 2012 2:42 am

    sunbro wrote:How about option C
    wearing a shield on you're back !!!
    Allways found it strange that someone with a bandits knife could pierce a havels shield :x

    That seems like it would be possible, but I have no idea how it's coded. Depending on how they set it up, they may not be able to make changes like that.

    For example, if a halo game were to get new weapons in DLC, they could only be used in future maps. The way they set it up makes it impossible to add it to past levels without completely re-downloading those.
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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by BLA1NE on Wed May 09, 2012 2:52 am

    sunbro wrote:How about option C
    wearing a shield on you're back !!!
    Allways found it strange that someone with a bandits knife could pierce a havels shield :x
    No. People always bring up this suggestion, and I always hated it. What about all those people who slap the GCS on their back for the stamina regen bonus? You think they should get a backstab damage diminishing bonus as well? Not to mention you need to use a shield for it to block, which drains your stamina, can be guard-broken, and can be dead-angled. Could you guard-break a shield on someone's back? Would it drain stamina? It couldn't be dead-angle backstabbed, that's for sure. As much as I'm against backstabbing in general, I think this solution would cause a lot more problems than it would fix.


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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Wed May 09, 2012 3:02 am

    Jus'sayin instead of a BS - Large weapons eg; Zwei etc should instead of the grab bs be able to hamstring you - this reduces your opponents movement speed for 30 seconds but it just does the normal damage of the weapon - no multiplier


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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by DoughGuy on Wed May 09, 2012 3:09 am

    But then you'd have people using that to hamstring then switch out to BK for a BS. Itd be like allowing melee only people to use TWOP extra.


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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by TehInfamousAmos on Wed May 09, 2012 3:13 am

    hmm - it would be too complicated to implement also - I was thinking not as much speed reduction as TWoP - more like the BT Swamp speed reduction divided by 2... and I was thinking perhaps Dex weapons uhhh cannot backstab - only riposte although they get more damage when they strike from behind eg 2x damage from behind that would make it actually worse... aye just disregard what I typed


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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by Katakato on Wed May 09, 2012 3:37 am

    How about they make that Backstabs 1st drain your Stamina instead of your HP than go for HP after the stamina has been depleted ?

    Ok, say you have 160 stamina & 1500 HP, someone back stabs you for lets say 1000dmg.
    You 1st loose 160 stamina witch could be valued as 480hp (1 stamina = 3hp?) & than you suffer HP loss for the rest of the BS damage resulting in you loosing 520 hp instead of 1000.

    Ofc if you were swinging your weapon, rolling or doing something else that drained your stamina before you got BS-d you would get more HP dmg.

    Stamina as a shield for back stabs.

    It may be a dumb (illogical) solution but it would be simple to do and lower dmg on back stab fishing, pivot ect...

    2. Make resistance give % back stab (or critical all together) dmg reduction ?

    I am 1st in line to nerf the Hornet ring but it would be great if something like this was implemented so for those that still want higher BS/Parry dmg can have it without it being game breaking.


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    Re: best fix for backstabs.

    Post by DoughGuy on Wed May 09, 2012 3:39 am

    Thats how you make res useful, it applies to BSes!


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